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What's the best way for making a female hero and a female villain fall in love? (1 Viewer)

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MorganaPendragon25

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So my story features a female hero and a female villain. They both come from very different walks of life but share some of the same struggles. They both are very human and even the villainess has a heart for good (or what she thinks is good for the world). There is a tension between these two throughout the whole of the story. Maybe they're allies at some point and their relationship goes through a whole bunch of ups and downs. Secretly, I think they're in love with each other. At least, my villainess is very attracted to my heroine, in some ways she gets to become protective of her (since my villainess doesn't have any children of her own..she doesn't want any either...but finds comfort in this "protective" role).

What are some of the best ways for making their relationship believable and possibly romantic? Two people at opposite sides but they do share a lot in common. The villainess does a lot of twisted, nasty things in her lifetime but somehow has a way to keep them covered up so the heroine doesn't see. Not that I'm going to write it into the story, but I feel my heroine and villainess sleep together one night or have a nude or sexual scene...and that causes a lot of tension between them. My heroine finds out a lot about my villainess because it's a scene where my villainess takes off her cover and shows her vulnerability (good scene to show she is human).

Thoughts and any ideas?
 

MistWolf

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The classic is the dynamic between Batman and Catwoman.

Although not romantic, a good study is the dynamic between Doofensmirtch and Perry the Platypus in Phineas & Ferb. Doofensmirtch has a serious man-crush on Perry.

Another interesting dynamic is that between Kim Possible and She-Go. She-Go can't leave Kim alone.

Your characters don't need to have much in common, they just need to feel a connection. It's possible they start to get the other as they get to know the other. What they don't know is each other outside of the heroine/villainess dynamic. Like Ralph the Sheepdog and Fred the Coyote, they don't see each other outside of work.
 
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BornForBurning

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At least, my villainess is very attracted to my heroine, in some ways she gets to become protective of her (since my villainess doesn't have any children of her own..she doesn't want any either...but finds comfort in this "protective" role).
Sounds extremely pathological, and that's probably the key to unlocking this story. The Villainess as Jung's devouring mother is one of the many masks she's worn over the millennia, and ultimately, one of the many masks that Satan himself wears.

Okay, basic story stuff. Note this: your villainess is effectively USING the protagonist to fulfill the maternal role. Moreover, this role has, through some mechanism or other, become associated with lesbianic sexual desire. Psychologists can busy themselves trying to figure out why on earth brain chemistry in the 'real world' would do this. The important thing for you to note as an author is that, first and foremost, this is EXTEMELY EVIL Hellraiser-tier stuff. Why? It's an adult woman infantilizing another adult woman for the purposes of sexual pleasure, ala the reduction of one soul for the carnal pleasure of another. This is insulting, degrading, disgusting, and all other kinds of no. Besides just being flat-out dangerous. Your protagonist finds this attractive? Why? That's the question you need to answer. Maybe she's insecure, and the attention validates her. Maybe her own mother died, and she's seeking out maternal love and affection in all the wrong places. Maybe she just gets a sickening thrill out of being drawn into evil. That's the Pure Black Metal plot, in a sense. Certainly, she's being deeply deceived, but there's also a part of her that should know this is wrong, even if in the end she gives herself over.

Of course, you could do the actual Hellraiser plot, and have the girl scream "No! No! No!" at the thing trying to seduce her until it gets violently dragged down to hell in the fourth act. Which is the kind of plot I prefer. Cute girls fighting evil with unbreakable purity is AESTHETIC. Yeah, be careful with this idea. It can quickly drag you into the realms of demonic pornography.
 
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It's an adult woman infantilizing another adult woman for the purposes of sexual pleasure, ala the reduction of one soul for the carnal pleasure of another.

That's how I felt about this whole idea. Doesn't make it impossible to write well, just means you have to recognize it's evil to write it well. Respect your characters enough not to subject them to this kind of degradation and then pretend everything's fine. I have seen stories/media which treat this sort of thing as 'cute,' or even fetishize it for audience titillation. DO NOT DO THAT. ):
 

Hector

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Watch some Owl House episodes. They'll greatly help you with that. Luz x Amity forever, baby!
 
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