Fortunately, I have a number of people arguing my argument for me, so I really don't need to contribute further. Jordan - If you think he's a good storyteller, read War and Peace. If you think his writing is immersive, read Robin Hobb. If you think his world is fascinating, read any other fantasy novel. Tolkien - spent twelve years creating a world that endures to this day beyond all other fantasy literature, which says more than enough in itself. I think that about covers it, eh.