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Life in the slow lane (1 Viewer)

JustRob

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Bonanza? Yes, I remember seeing the trailers for it before it started ... er ... back around the 1960s I think. Has it started yet then? Don't say I missed it. Not much point in watching the latest episodes now then, is there?
 

am_hammy

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Bonanza? Yes, I remember seeing the trailers for it before it started ... er ... back around the 1960s I think. Has it started yet then? Don't say I missed it. Not much point in watching the latest episodes now then, is there?

There's a tv channel that has reruns I believe and when I looked it up they had the old seasons on hulu.
 

LeeC

WF Veterans
There's a tv channel that has reruns I believe and when I looked it up they had the old seasons on hulu.
If you're looking for "relatively" old TV shows, here is something I noticed.
https://youtu.be/1O6IGz5NqD8

What I enjoyed as a child was The Shadow and Gunsmoke on the radio. They didn't have TV in Wyoming at the time.


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I skimmed through the video and noticed one of the shows introduced was The Rat Patrol. One I used to watch later on. Haven't watched TV in years so I wouldn't know what's playing nowadays.
 
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plawrence

Senior Member
When you're retired, every day is Saturday—unless you don't like Saturday. Then it's whatever day you do like.
 

Kevin

WF Veterans
Watched three coyotes tumbling around on a hillside. They were watching me and then went back to playing. Birds of prey were squawking; not near the coyotes, but just in general; the peacocks were still at it as I got closer back to town. They live in the houses, but right near the edge. The little pond at the top of the stagecoach trail was nearly gone. Baby toads were all over the cracked mud flats, and there were still plenty of tadpoles. I'd say they got maybe two weeks, and then the water will be all gone.
 

Winston

WF Veterans
"I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got"
Sinead O'Connor

At the shipyard, I overheard I guy talking about purchasing a $70,000 pick-up truck.
I kinda like my 40 year old truck I spent $1700 on.
I just hope buying that trucks makes that guy happy. I really do.
 

LeeC

WF Veterans
Watched three coyotes tumbling around on a hillside. They were watching me and then went back to playing. Birds of prey were squawking; not near the coyotes, but just in general; the peacocks were still at it as I got closer back to town. They live in the houses, but right near the edge. The little pond at the top of the stagecoach trail was nearly gone. Baby toads were all over the cracked mud flats, and there were still plenty of tadpoles. I'd say they got maybe two weeks, and then the water will be all gone.

The vagaries of Nature. Scares the s**t out of most folks, so they pretend we're superior with some divinity watching over us ;-)

"I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got"
Sinead O'Connor

At the shipyard, I overheard I guy talking about purchasing a $70,000 pick-up truck.
I kinda like my 40 year old truck I spent $1700 on.
I just hope buying that trucks makes that guy happy. I really do.

Ride on :) I bet you'll find more serenity at the end of the rainbow than the materialistic dude.
 

LeeC

WF Veterans
Ran across a meme of an angry duck saying, "Whatever you do don't call be Donald!"

I like when people show some imagination :)
 

LeeC

WF Veterans
Old age (or whenever a biobot breaks down) crap is for the birds, sorry birds. I spent the last few days in the hospital because predominate culture medicine jumps to focus on what they believe the core problem is. I was taken in because I blacked out. They did identify the reason I blacked out as water in the lungs. That being relatively simple to alleviate though, they kept me in the hospital because my heart rate was below forty. What they refused to accept is that my guardian spirit is Brown Bear, which can slow it’s heart rate to match metabolism processes.

Now before you scoff at such thinking [remember I’m a student of natural history], compare it with predominate culture beliefs where for the most part they seemingly believe they can destroy habitat and biodiversity in excess without affecting the quality of life their children will experience. My construction of points is no where as farfetched as a lot of what I see and read to make outselves feel better ;-)

Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature, unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.” ~ Hubert Reeves


Somewhat related, is that the wife stayed with me the whole time. That even though she missed out on two golf tournaments she was supposed to play in. She made up for it by berating me for not having gotten the lawn mowed first :)


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With my mind on the misdirection of human intelligence, I remembered a video I watched some time back. I wonder how many truly understand and appreciate what is said. Surly our current directions are showing that not enough care.

One of my favorite Carl Sagan videos
https://youtu.be/MrZ4197C1I0
 
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LeeC

WF Veterans
On a followup visit to my doctor, after my hospitalization, he made arrangements for further visits with other specialists. Life is coming full circle and I can rest easy in having done my little bit for the world my grandson will have to get by in. If only I can finish illustrating my book in the hope of reaching the crowd that might in time benefit from it.

Anyway, for one of the specialist areas I interjected that he not send me to a particular practice that has walnut paneling throughout their office, because I wasn't going to benefit the Mr. Avarice crowd. I was pleased when he said he wouldn't think of it. His words, "I understand as I have a problem with corporate medicine also, and that group will cut anybody when there's a profit to be made."

I mention this because it renewed my appreciation of the potential of humankind. Professional or laborer, comfortable or hand to mouth, there are those that understand where our ignorance, hubris, and greed are taking us.

Gotta go, I hear the wife coming to shut me down for the night.

Take care all.
 
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midnightpoet

WF Veterans
Hang in there, Lee. I don't trust the medical community either, but sometimes a necessary evil - and I know a lot of people go to church to worship God but really are worshiping gold, they just won't admit it. :)
 

LeeC

WF Veterans
Hang in there, Lee. I don't trust the medical community either, but sometimes a necessary evil - and I know a lot of people go to church to worship God but really are worshiping gold, they just won't admit it. :)
Thank you, but I'm doing fine. My reference to medicine was how even those with "advanced education" reflect the disparities in our culture.

The wife showed me an article in the newspaper this morning about our "live free or die" state now having a school choice law. Cracks me up that people are finding ways to get their fantasies, justifications, and manipulation into the class room. If there was material profit to be made from the Earth being flat, it would be included in the curriculum.

Hope your wife is doing better.
 

Jack of all trades

Senior Member
The wife showed me an article in the newspaper this morning about our "live free or die" state now having a school choice law. Cracks me up that people are finding ways to get their fantasies, justifications, and manipulation into the class room. If there was material profit to be made from the Earth being flat, it would be included in the curriculum.


Are you saying that anyone who wants to choose which school to use is a flat Earth believer? An idiot? Because that's how your remarks come across, at least to me.

Here's an article about that bill. http://www.schoolchoicenh.org/2017/06/29/governor-signs-town-tuitioning/

I don't see anything about flat Earth believers.

Montessori schools, for those who may not be familiar with them, are more or less child led learning centers. Materials for various subjects are around the room for the children to use and learn from. There is generally some "class" time, when the teacher covers specific information. I have never known anyone being taught that the Earth is flat at a Montessori school.
 

LeeC

WF Veterans
Right wing media. I notice you didn't also note the opposing viewpoints for balance. Everybody's vying for children's minds. So far humans have managed to destroy much of habitat and biodiversity that in essence sustains us. Human intelligence, like military intelligence, is an oxymoron. Nature's way of moving on to correct an imbalance, so blame it, not me.

"It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled." ~ Mark Twain

Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature, unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.” ~ Hubert Reeves

Read "The Sixth Extinction, An Unnatural History" by Elizabeth Kolbert, for a balanced presentation of the good and bad of humanity. A significant portion of the population wouldn't chose a school that had such as required reading. While at it, think about how big business tried to destroy Rachel Carson because of her book Silent Spring. The fact that they didn't succeed buoys my hope in the human potential manifesting in our thinking and behavior.
 
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Kevin

WF Veterans
I don't know how it is out there, but here it takes a 4.50 grade point average to get into UCLA. I know because our friend's daughter didn't make it; she only had a 4.25. He said he felt so bad for her, that she's been working so hard, 16 hr days, up til midnight sometimes, studying for the last four years.

I bring this up to emphasize the extreme competition now it takes to get into a state university, and the pressure felt by parents to make they tried and done everything possible to allow their children the best opportunity.

So here, when you're not wealthy, you have to judge the place you're going to live, the property values, the price you pay for your home, and factor in private school costs versus paying more monthly mortgage and being able to send your child to a decent public school. I believe it was up until last year that the rankings were published, but then our leader, Moonbeam, with all his higher learning, loftier plane awareness decided (along with the other cadres in charge) that we don't need that information.

So then, considering that we only get once chance, should you just leave your kid in there and sacrifice for the good of all the proletariat and brotherhood of mankind, or, should you ask for your money back so you too might have a chance at the loftier planes of existence ( that is trying to give your child the opportunity to have that)? The voucher drive here has two forces: one is concerned parents. The other are private school interests. Granted the second one is corrupt. The first however consists of all types and classes. Flat earth are kooks out on the edge. As I see it they are for less education and basically irrelevant... except as a red herring.
 
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LeeC

WF Veterans
Yes Kev, I knew you'd understand my comments on the disparities of the human condition. To me schools are a place to at least gain an awareness of the reality of the human condition and our little blue canoe at a minimum, since such is paramount to our continued existence. In reality they are more a place for producing worker bees. The latter isn't so bad if a wide range of subjects are at least available for the critical thinking students. What I have a problem with is curriculum being dictated by the Alternate Reality Coalition.

Even with the public schools we don't go far enough. Take history for example where students memorize occasions and date, but seldom get into in-depth reality and the lessons we might learn from such. I had a more complete education in a one-room reservation schoolhouse, because it included history that the predominate culture leaves out of their teaching.

Something that might be learned is how down through history the cultural pyramid scheme failed because it benefited only a few.

Oh well, we are what we are, and Nature will deal with the problem in moving on to new life forms. What saddens me is how we're diminishing the quality of life of our children.

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Jack of all trades

Senior Member
Right wing media. I notice you didn't also note the opposing viewpoints for balance. Everybody's vying for children's minds. So far humans have managed to destroy much of habitat and biodiversity that in essence sustains us. Human intelligence, like military intelligence, is an oxymoron. Nature's way of moving on to correct an imbalance, so blame it, not me.

"It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled." ~ Mark Twain

Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature, unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.” ~ Hubert Reeves

Read "The Sixth Extinction, An Unnatural History" by Elizabeth Kolbert, for a balanced presentation of the good and bad of humanity. A significant portion of the population wouldn't chose a school that had such as required reading. While at it, think about how big business tried to destroy Rachel Carson because of her book Silent Spring. The fact that they didn't succeed buoys my hope in the human potential manifesting in our thinking and behavior.


Whoa! So much faulty info!

1. I was responding to your remarks, which has nothing to do with media, right wing or otherwise.

2. I notice you didn't provide anything to support your remarks. That burden lies with you not me.

3. The school choice enables families to have more control over WHERE to send their children. It does NOT give them control over curriculum, which was your original implication.

4. Being in favor of school choice does not mean ANY of the other garbage you are projecting onto me! If you knew my ACTUAL views on subjects, you would most likely be surprised.


To clarify, I objected, and still object to, disparaging comments being made that are unsubstantiated. That is the limit of my point.

There is nothing in the bill that allows for flat Earth style curriculum. School choice would, possibly, address some of Kevin's points, too.

For that matter, keeping families tied to the school of the home location allows for more control over curriculum by whatever powers that be that concern you.

While the current system is malfunctioning, it takes time and change to put a new one in place. One does not go from the desk to the door without walking across the floor.


I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this issue.
 

Plasticweld

Senior Member
Lee I couldn't disagree more with you on your assessment of todays schools. "my opinion" Teachers seldom have a grasp on reality, they are in a safe environment where they can't be fired for poor performance. They have done little to actually experience life except go to other schools taught by others who have escaped the reality of the real world, and what it takes to actually get things done. I only wished they turned out worker bees who understood how to get things done. I wish critical thinking was actually taught, that would truly pay off in an environment where a wide range of topics are taught and even more missed. You mention history, I couldn't agree more with you there.

I would love for you to explain how a white kid ended up in a one room school house on a reservation, that sounds like a true story all in itself.
 

Kevin

WF Veterans
Oh shit, Lee... Now you've done it. Lol.

I've met some teachers that really knew a hole in the ground. Hereabouts they are caught up in the union finagling whether they complain or not. On the other hand, well...on the other hand I really don't know because I haven't taken a pole, analyzed any data , or done any other comprehensive anything to support whatever. I would just be going off of assumptions...

Choice of curiculum... How bout a learning environment superior to the one to be had at the local public school? That's what the whole choice thing is here, whether it's public or private it breaks down into money. You pay more to live near the better public- , or you pay more to send them to a private, or you pay more to transport the pupil to the desired 'free' location. And by the way, I live in the largest single school district ( or is it the second?)in the country, so my opinion really carries more weight... Probably more than your combined. Lol
 

LeeC

WF Veterans
Thanks Bob and Kev. I think you both have reasonable assessments of our education system. Basically it's like all of our institutions, with incompetence abounding, and many of the teachers furthering what they received. There are a minority of really good teachers, that are critical thinkers themselves. That they might choose the highest bidder, and a private school employer, is not surprising. I don't know of a solution for that given population growth and a material pursuit culture. So, granted many public schools are doing a piss poor job, and being the animals we are I doubt that can be fixed. But my thought is letting the alternate reality believers take the lead in change will only make things worse.

This was a continuation of my comments about my doctor. You won't find many like him, steering me away from the whatever-it-takes-to-increase-profits crowd.

My points of reference are the public school district my daughter teaches in, where many of the students chose environmental projects as a senior project requirement (Maine's school districts are dwarfed by California's Kev), and the other side of the coin around here and noted in more reliable news media than Fox News. The latter being attempts to integrate such as ID, one religion's bible studies, denial of our accelerating global warming, and other alternate realities in school curriculum, regardless of how subtle their attempts are. The examples are so numerous that mentioning a few would only give those supporting the agenda something to distract with. My problem with such subjects is seeing where it has gotten us. As Carl Sager and others have said, we're still thinking like we did when we lived in caves. Such is amply evidenced by the avarice and atrocities of more recent times. Where I'm coming from is instead of cramming our children's heads with the thinking that has and is causing so many problems, we should be trying to improve their objectivity and broaden their perspective so that we might continue as a species.

Just so you know, I'm neither a right or left politico, but a naturalist that holds out hope for the human potential, even when we're shooting ourselves in the foot. It galled me greatly to vote as I did in the last election, but I wasn't ready to jump off a cliff.

Oh, and Bob, a Shoshone family was the only one that would take in this troublesome and rebellious child when needed. I'm very thankful they did as, being an outsider to their culture and
estranged from my own, I learned to look more objectively at human culture, and it was the beginning of better understanding the natural world. I also appreciate your comments about workers. Two summers ago I hired two young men (30s) to cut and split a pile of logs I couldn't anymore, paying them fairly as I knew how much work was involved. They took almost three weeks to do what I did alone in a week when I was seventy. They seemed to always be on their cell phones or breaks ;-)

This all reminds me of your comments Kev, about the tadpoles in the drying pond. The vagaries of Nature scare the crap out of our insecure species. Even so, we know deep down there is something wrong with how we're handling physical life. Look at all the
apocalyptic stories that are written ;-)

I think Albert Einstein summed it up best.

"A human being is part of a whole, called by us the Universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separated from the rest - a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and ...to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circles of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." - Albert Einstein


PS: I would love to hear both your comments about the book "The Sixth Extinction, An Unnatural History" by Elizabeth Kolbert. I haven't seen where anyone here has even cracked the cover. Maybe they're afraid of what they'll read :)
 
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