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Hip Hop and poular music's consciousness? (1 Viewer)

gokedik

Senior Member
We don’t care how much money you have or how plush your life is, we need to hear something encouraging to get us through our day so we don’t go postal at our jobs and and end up a statistic. Or, for the younger, something that will help us build confidence so we don’t give in to the bullying and jump off a bridge or reach for that pistol, that our father’s thought was so well hidden, and chock up another tragedy to the board of, “That should have never happened.”&nbsp;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; C’mon hip-hop and popular music in general, give us some inspiration and not boasting that you really intend for your rivals. We, the fans that pay exorbitant prices for a concert ticket, are responsible for your fame, your Maserati, your house on the beach, and your complete lifestyle. So when brag to your competition, are you saying, “Look, I got them for more money than you?” Of course not, right? I sincerely hope not.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;There are very few artists that are doing it for the sake of the art. Because he is very outspoken, Immortal Technique, comes to mind bashing a dent into the roof of the underground. He speaks his mind and seems to have given up offers from major labels due to his unwillingness to switch up his political rhetoric.
Mackelmore has written a tune about being treated as a commodity and brought the listener into the corporate offices of a Interscope and had the percentage of his Art be whittled down by leeches. Artists such as Jay-Z are hugely popular but are not saying anything except, crime does pay. Not something I believe our youth need to hear, the parents of our youth, or just someone out of work. Eminem, the most prolific of all hip hop artists ever, talks about his personal problems, whom does that help? Too many artists are considering themselves more than the public, hardcore, I’d wager. What makes them so hard, because spending my dollar to buy cushy linens for a cushy bed in a cushy beachfront home, doesn’t lend itself to being hard. Being hard is having to duck bullets on the way to school or sell dope on a street corner to support your family while staying invisible to the police due to your packing a pistol to protect yourself and your territory. Or breaking your back in the fields picking produce, feeding this foreign country that treats you like an invader. THAT is hard.
Rock music disguises what they say with grinding guitars and was the reason for the ridiculous censorship and those 'Parental Advisory’ labels conceived in the 1980's. They, using Nirvana’s Kurt Cobain as an example, wrote lyrics about ANGST. A relatable emotion. And rock music continue’s to write about personal anguish. Either getting to the top or staying there. But this braggart thing is endemic to hip hop. The diamonds, and the jewelry, cars and ridiculous lifestyles they live burning through listeners yearly salaries in an evening, do not need to be shouted from mountain tops. That only makes the listening public feel, less than, and predicting your downfall.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; You have reached this grand soapbox to speak from and a chance to be heard. Have some social consciousness and say something helpful to your listeners, to those struggling to feed their families, which is most of us. Give us confidence in the face of a system designed to stomp us out. Encourage me to find a job, lie if you must and tell&nbsp;We don’t care how much money you have or how plush your life is, we need to hear something encouraging to get us through our day so we don’t go postal at our jobs and and end up a statistic. Or, for the younger, something that will help us build confidence so we don’t give in to the bullying and jump off a bridge or reach for that pistol, that our father’s thought was so well hidden, and chock up another tragedy to the board of, “That should have never happened.”&nbsp;<div>C’mon hip-hop and popular music in general, give us some inspiration and not boasting that you really intend for your rivals. We, the fans that pay exorbitant prices for a concert ticket, are responsible for your fame, your Maserati, your house on the beach, and your complete lifestyle. So when brag to your competition, are you saying, “Look, I got them for more money than you?” Of course not, right? I sincerely hope not.
There are very few artists that are doing it for the sake of the art. Because he is very outspoken, Immortal Technique, comes to mind bashing a dent into the roof of the underground. He speaks his mind and seems to have given up offers from major labels due to his unwillingness to switch up his political rhetoric. Mackelmore has written a tune about being treated as a commodity and brought the listener into the corporate offices of a Interscope and had the percentage of his Art be whittled down by leeches. Artists such as Jay-Z are hugely popular but are not saying anything except, crime does pay. Not something I believe our youth need to hear, the parents of our youth, or just someone out of work. Eminem, the most prolific of all hip hop artists ever, talks about his personal problems, whom does that help? Too many artists are considering themselves more than the public, hardcore, I’d wager. What makes them so hard, because spending my dollar to buy cushy linens for a cushy bed in a cushy beachfront home, doesn’t lend itself to being hard. Being hard is having to duck bullets on the way to school or sell dope on a street corner to support your family while staying invisible to the police due to your packing a pistol to protect yourself and your territory. Or breaking your back in the fields picking produce, feeding this foreign country that treats you like an invader. THAT is hard.
Rock music disguises what they say with grinding guitars and was the reason for the ridiculous censorship and those 'Parental Advisory’ labels conceived in the 1980's. They, using Nirvana’s Kurt Cobain as an example, wrote lyrics about ANGST. A relatable emotion. And rock music continue’s to write about personal anguish. Either getting to the top or staying there. But this braggart thing is endemic to hip hop. The diamonds, and the jewelry, cars and ridiculous lifestyles they live burning through listeners yearly salaries in an evening, do not need to be shouted from mountain tops. That only makes the listening public feel, less than, and predicting your downfall.</div><div>You have reached this grand soapbox to speak from and a chance to be heard. Have some social consciousness and say something helpful to your listeners, to those struggling to feed their families, which is most of us. Give us confidence in the face of a system designed to stomp us out. Encourage me to find a job, lie if you must and tell me they’re out there waiting for me. Because sometimes a lie is better than allowing complacency which breeds abuse, of narcotics, of alcohol which drains the food supply to the home by spending needed dollars where they have no business. Or simply, not that there is anything simple about it, abuse of the family, the children. Letting arguments over money spill over onto the children and the money that MUST be spent. Remind us where our ancestors were from and why they came to this fledgling country. What the original dream was and how it got hijacked by a corrupt Federal government. And what we can do now, maybe, rally us together with similar complaints.
Use the loud voice you were given to assist the resistance, not rape the listener, who is spending a saved up pile of quarters to buy your CD. Do you really want them to eventually learn to hate you because you stole valuable coins that his family could have use for their new babies booties or a new blouse for his hard working wife? And then look for you on the street with a hot piece under the seat. Tasting the adrenaline from that first trigger pull and smelling the burnt powder as that pointed piece of lead leaves the barrel with the destination being your skull. Being conscious of the words that leave your mouth, is a much better way to pursue a career. Safer, for you, and more sustaining to your audience.me they’re out there waiting for me. Because sometimes a lie is better than allowing complacency which breeds abuse, of narcotics, of alcohol which drains the food supply to the home by spending needed dollars where they have no business. Or simply, not that there is anything simple about it, abuse of the family, the children. Letting arguments over money spill over onto the children and the money that MUST be spent. Remind us where our ancestors were from and why they came to this fledgling country. What the original dream was and how it got hijacked by a corrupt Federal government. And what we can do now, maybe, rally us together with similar complaints
Use the loud voice you were given to assist the resistance, not rape the listener, who is spending a saved up pile of quarters to buy your CD. Do you really want them to eventually learn to hate you because you stole valuable coins that his family could have use for their new babies booties or a new blouse for his hard working wife? And then look for you on the street with a hot piece under the seat. Tasting the adrenaline from that first trigger pull and smelling the burnt powder as that pointed piece of lead leaves the barrel with the destination being your skull. Being conscious of the words that leave your mouth, is a much better way to pursue a career. Safer, for you, and more sustaining to your audience.
 
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gokedik

Senior Member
Could NOT figure out the formatting, excuse me, I tried but am now exhausted and will just read what others wrote.
 

Seedy M.

Senior Member
Strictly from the POV of a musician and songwriter before rap and hip-hop, it is a peer pressure driven genre. It is not music, the poetry stinks and is 90% or more empty. It is, to a great extent, talentless out-of-shape cons seeing how far they can go and get away with it while getting paid phenomenal sums for nothing. It takes the "music business" to it's lowest depth.
Here, there is no censorship on the radio or Blackberry or your cel phone. You would not believe what is on the air. We are fortunate, in a way, that the language here is Spanish. Most people have no idea of what the words are about. Writers can't understand why they have to warn about language and sex and all that when you can turn on the radio almost anytime and hear it performed live with no restriction whatever.
Ah, well. Us old over-the-hill ex-musicians like to rant about how the art has become totally the business. The US philosophy: anything for a buck. I was in a bar a few kilometers from here where the most graphic porno was shown on one wall. Some teenagers came in. They couldn't legally buy beer or cigarettes, but they could buy a Coke and sit to watch that for hours.
Don't get me wrong. Panamá is free and I don't believe in lessening that freedom. I'm only saying this is the mind-set of those people (excuse the insult) has taken it too far.
 
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