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ERAGON!!! :P (1 Viewer)

Dustin

Member
Eragon must have been one of the best books I've ever read, the storyline is quite good, the writing excellent, and completely my genre. It's fantasy and if you want a short story/info go here: www.alagaesia.com (the prologue is shit, the book is 100x better than the prologue)

Aksi try Robin Hobb with his 'Farseer' trilogie or Phillip Pullman with 'Swans War'
 

Tyson

Senior Member
I have read this and I agree it is good but it does resemble lord of the rings and it does have intresting concepts but yes I do love this book also.
 

tekp

Senior Member
did you both know that Eragon was written by a modern-day CS lewis at 15 when he began writing it?

and i have read it but got bored in the middle
 

A_MacLaren

Senior Member
No, no, NO! I despise this book. Modern CS Lewis my...foot! This book is the very epitome of everything that's wrong with modern fantasy. Generic to the extreme, it's simply reinforcing the ideas people have about fantasy: That it's uncomplicated chaff. That it bothers only with big ideals and not with the subtle state of human kind. I cannot express my disgust for this book, the author, and the fact that it's been so damned popular.
 

Creative_Insanity

Senior Member
Dustin said:
Eragon must have been one of the best books I've ever read, the storyline is quite good, the writing excellent, and completely my genre. It's fantasy and if you want a short story/info go here: www.alagaesia.com (the prologue is shit, the book is 100x better than the prologue)

Aksi try Robin Hobb with his 'Farseer' trilogie or Phillip Pullman with 'Swans War'

FYI, Robin Hobb is a woman. . . :wink:
 

Lews

Senior Member
Eragorn is a cheap copy of the Lord of the Rings, with no new ideas, bad style and bad characters. The only way this book sells is because of the author's young age.
 

redwood

Member
Eragon is one of the best fantasy books out there and i cant wait till the next one come out either. (which is in august of 2005)
 

demonic_harmonic

Senior Member
*Pulls out soap box*


Alright then, for you who say it isnt worthy, then write something better, publish it, and have it become a best seller.


Go on.



Do it.
 

A_MacLaren

Senior Member
Alright then, for you who say it isnt worthy, then write something better, publish it, and have it become a best seller.
Yeah, because that's really the way to judge the worth of a person's opinion. You are not allowed an opinion on anything unless you have done something of equal or greater worth. Now that's the way to run things.
 

demonic_harmonic

Senior Member
A_MacLaren said:
Alright then, for you who say it isnt worthy, then write something better, publish it, and have it become a best seller.
Yeah, because that's really the way to judge the worth of a person's opinion. You are not allowed an opinion on anything unless you have done something of equal or greater worth. Now that's the way to run things.



If you think its so bad, then do what he did. You say its not a good story. Then make a better story that people enjoy just as much. Write a three novel trilogy, have it picked up by a publisher and get a deal, and see where it goes. Im serious. Im tired of people saying other writers works arent good enough when they themselves dont have anything to show.
 

Pendulum

Senior Member
demonic_harmonic said:
A_MacLaren said:
If you think its so bad, then do what he did. You say its not a good story. Then make a better story that people enjoy just as much. Write a three novel trilogy, have it picked up by a publisher and get a deal, and see where it goes. Im serious. Im tired of people saying other writers works arent good enough when they themselves dont have anything to show.

Just so you know, a trilogy means three, so you don't have to say "3 novel trilogy". But I agree. I mean, it's fair to criticize the book, but when you start saying it's terrible, I'd like to see you do any better.
 

Talia_Brie

Senior Member
My ability as a writer should not limit my ability as a reader.

There are plenty of people who can't write, but know a bad book when they read one.

I've never read Eragon, so I can't comment on it. But as a published work it should be compared against other published work, not against A_MacLaren's unpublished work.

You supporters of the book should compare it against other work in the genre adn tell everyone else why it stands up, not just say "You do better". That is a childish response to criticism.
 

A_MacLaren

Senior Member
Sigh...
If you think its so bad, then do what he did. You say its not a good story. Then make a better story that people enjoy just as much. Write a three novel trilogy, have it picked up by a publisher and get a deal, and see where it goes. Im serious. Im tired of people saying other writers works arent good enough when they themselves dont have anything to show.
But I agree. I mean, it's fair to criticize the book, but when you start saying it's terrible, I'd like to see you do any better.
You know, I might just quote myself here.
You are not allowed an opinion on anything unless you have done something of equal or greater worth. Now that's the way to run things.
 

Shadeslayer

Senior Member
Err...I don't want to get into a big fight or anything, but I want to state my opinion about Eragon.

True, I did enjoy the book and its concept, but I was quite disgusted by the fact that Paolini's work wasn't really original and that he just as easily took other's ideas as his own. That, in a way, slightly pissed me off. Sure, he's young, but that still no excuse. Burrowing a FEW ideas is quite alright, cause readers do need influence from authors, but to TAKE ALMOST EVERYTHING from many other books should be considered STEALING in Paolini's case, including others.

This book is, in short, Standard Adventure Quest Junk. A person wanders in the forest (And of course, he's the best hunter in the village). He finds a blue rock. "It must be my destiny to have this!" He cries.

Then his family gets killed (How many times has this been done? A thousand times? More?), and he finds that his blue rock is an egg (gasp!). Then the storyteller (who would be much better left as an ordinary person) turns out to be a Dragon Rider, and travels with Eragon (That's one letter off from Aragon AND Dragon! What imagination!).

Then they wander around rather aimlessly, and Eragon gets a magic sword, a fully grown dragon, and magic to blow things up with. (While we're giving him weapons, why not hand him a sword of Vorpal Slaying +12, and a Holy Hand Grenade?).

Then, they kill some guy who's supposed to be evil, and rescue the elven princess (Cmon! That was the ultimate in cleashe!), and then they wander across a large desert. Then they come to some sort of city and slaughter a few baddies. Then they relize the evil guy they killed wasnt dead, so they kill him now.

That's the storyline. I was not impressed. In this world, the evil king sits quietly on his throne and waits for some young loser to come and kill him. He has no powerful servents left (the author saw fit to kill them off before the story, leaving him with nameless wizards). And the politics in the world are perposterous. How does it work? If you're lucky enough to find a Dragon egg, then you instantly become a noble, and if you dont, then you are no more than a pesant, so get back to work.

And you could see where a whole passage was effectively lifted out of Belgarath the Soceror! He barely changed the wording! It's about frustrating people until they get sick of it all and just yell some word at the impossible task they've been given to instantly learn magic. And when Eragon's summoning magic, it gives the impression that magic is just a tumor in his brain he lances to boil pus over people.

The main character was like a total flop! He is constantly crying, fainting (6 or 7 times in the damn book), whining and always getting angry at the most pointless things. Paolini lacks depth and emotion in his character. The characters are so poorly done, that I can hardly relate to them, much less feel an sory of feeling for them. I mean, c'mon! Even the Harry Potter series has got me feeling worried over Potty boy here!

So, in conclusion, Eragon was a poor first attempt at fantasy, bringing nothing new, and no interesting interations. It wouldnt have gotten published if his parents wern't working at the publishing company, and wouldn't have gotten any sales if the author didnt go around saying "Buy my book!" and spending more time getting magazines to generate hype then he did writing this 500 page monstrosity.

Oh, and one more thing. The egg awakes Eragon in the middle of the night and guess what? He is ANGRY with it! (GASP!)

How incredibly stupid and fake is that? Really?! I mean, if a blue stone is juggling around and making noises at night, would your first reaction turn out be angry with it? Oh please, Paolini still needs to work on it.

Though, despite my comments, I did (strangely enough) like the book. Yet, I don't think I'm going to buy the next series. Probably just borrow em from the library. Well, whatever.
 

Talia_Brie

Senior Member
While it is definitely odd for you to say you enjoyed the book when you've just panned it, I can definitely see where you're coming from. Even an unoriginal book can be enjoyable, just on a different level. I mean if Paolini did steal all the best bits from the last 30 years of fantasy fiction, how can you help but enjoy it :twisted:

Now, I haven't read it, so I can't say, but Shadeslayer has done exactly what needs to be done on these threads. 'I didn't like it, and here is why'.

Well done.
 

BookwormA

Senior Member
I have heard great reviews in several magazines, as well as several here, but also several not as good. No, I have not read the book, but I want to ask if you believe it would be a waste of my time getting this book
 

Shadeslayer

Senior Member
Do I recommend it? Now, this is a tough question, for I have highly mixed feelings for this book. However, I can tell that your a Lord Of The Rings fan by your pictures, and trust me, once you have read this, and if you are a true Tolkien fan, you wll we absolutely disgusted by this book as I have.

Now, because of my weird mind (but maybe because its took so many things from Tolkien), I did like it. But as you can tell from my review of the book, it bothered me as well.

So do this:

Do no buy the book at first if you are a Tolkien fan. Burrow it from a library if you are interested, though I do think you will detest it once you have finished with it. But if you like it anyways, buy it. *Shrugs* Its not my matter to make opinion for anyone. But anywho, my above review was how I really felt about this damn, unoriginal book that so throughly copies many other great work. Pisses me off really. And what really pissed me off was that Paolini didn't decide to add Tolkien to his "Aknowledgement." My temper would have lessened if he had at least thanked Tolkien. Oh well, though.

Anywho, I suggest you borrow the book first and then make an opinion of whether you want it or not.
 
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