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Winston

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I have finally figured out, we are in Brexit hell. It doesn't matter which deal or no deal is arrived at this is not going to stop.... There is, quite literally, no end to this madness....

Well then, rest assured your government is functioning exactly the way all governments do.
Distract, delay and scare the populace while ensuring the sick system stays on life support. Just tap your feet to the "beep, beep, beep".
And, of course, the bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.
 

The Green Shield

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I've British friends on Facebook who discuss this, some having helpfully gotten me up to speed on things.

I'm...really sorry this is happening to y'all. D: The Tories are doing everything in their power to fuck you all over, it would seem. :c
 

Kevin

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We voted for a thing called prop 13 over here once. They told us not to but we did anyway, and the Sky fell and we all died. That was back in '78 I think. Can't remember cause we all died, right?
Still no clue about brexit, though...
 

escorial

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With brexit and robots on the way I've been thinking of my future and I have decided a good job unlikley to be impacted by those things will be for me to become a porn star...
 

PiP

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Brexit has caused a serious rift in our family to the point sister never wants to be in the same room as bother again otherwise she will punch him on the nose.

I am sick of Brexit. IT was a stupid referendum based on lies. If parliament can't agree it should go back to the people to have a voice. That would be true democracy.
 
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Olly Buckle

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With brexit and robots on the way I've been thinking of my future and I have decided a good job unlikley to be impacted by those things will be for me to become a porn star...

Not a good choice, a right wing, gung ho, Brexit style govt. would come down heavily on porn, you wuld have to emigrate to Holland and then you would be replaced by a sex robot.
 

JustRob

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On Saturday Tiger Roll won the Grand National for the second year. The next day I turned on our music system as we were sitting down to our usual Sunday roast meal and from some 2500 tunes it randomly chose to play Land of Hope and Glory. In the afternoon we watched the Boat Race on TV, something that we have done since we were children. At that time Brexit seemed irrelevant. Evidently being British hasn't been affected by EU membership that much and it is unlikely that whether or how we leave will affect it much either. The European Union was someone else's dream and in many of the member countries it is now becoming harder to find them as disillusionment grows. The UK may appear to be dithering but other countries are too. We just do it with more confidence.
 

ned

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The European Union was someone else's dream and in many of the member countries it is now becoming harder to find them as disillusionment grows. The UK may appear to be dithering but other countries are too. We just do it with more confidence.

what disillusionment is that? -

that we have free trade with our largest trading partners, both imports and exports?
that we are bound by European laws of human rights, that offers justice far beyond our own laws?
that we have to pay our membership dues, which is far outstripped by free trade income?
that we are free to travel, live and work in any member country without the hassle of visas and permits?
that we are part of a financial power base independent of the whims of America, the middle and far east?
that one's efficient, cheap and friendly plumber happens to come from Poland?

as your post underlines, the British do not take very well to change - but that is what we voted for, hence the dithering.
which, if anything, betrays a total lack of confidence.
 

epimetheus

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The EU could do with reform and this does feel a little like a missed opportunity for it. The frustrating thing about the UK in the EU is that we just seem to bitch about it but never constructively engage to change it for the better.
 

Olly Buckle

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If Eire was to leave the EU and become part of the UK again, like it ought to, that would solve the backstop problem. On the other hand we could get out of Northern Ireland and hand it over to Eire.
 

bazz cargo

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I have a thought. Is this the death throws of the Conservative party? Their grass roots membership is very small and a good percentage is ex-Ukip. Most of their income comes from trusts attached to wills. A party that has The Moggster and Kenneth Clarke in is a very broad church. Boris Johnson is aiming for the hot-seat and he will cause a few resignations. Schism anyone? Brexit has just become a sideshow.
 

midnightpoet

WF Veterans
A thought, do the "peers" (I assume pretty conservative still) still have influence as much as they did? I know the"royals" get a lot of press but is a lot of the "class system" in decline? Here across the pond I think we developed our own class system.
 

Olly Buckle

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A thought, do the "peers" (I assume pretty conservative still) still have influence as much as they did? I know the"royals" get a lot of press but is a lot of the "class system" in decline? Here across the pond I think we developed our own class system.

Most people seem to be class conscious, I bet you don't associate with certain social groups. I don't know the political balance of the house of lords, although each party does tend to promote its own interests when proposing candidates there is a degree of balance, and only a few are hereditary peers nowadays, there are more life peers. It used to be that the House of Lords could stop a commons bill dead by voting it down. They can still stop it, but the commons can contest it nowadays, I am unsure of the conditions needed, but the Lords can be by-passed I believe.
 

JustRob

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WF Veterans
It seems random, but what were the other 2,499 tunes?

ABBA, Alison Moyet, Beach Boys, Beatles, Bee Gees, Benny Goodman, Burt Bacharach, Cilla Black, Clannad (speaking of the Irish issue), Classical music, more Classical music, even more Classical music, guess what - Classical music, David Bowie, David Essex, Diana Ross, Duke Ellington, ELO, Elton John, Eurythmics, Fleetwood Mac, Glenn Miller, Holst (Er, that's more Classical music, isn't it?) ... What was your point?
 

escorial

WF Veterans
Everyone wants to experience so much so quick without really understanding it all..make sure your dressed as a woman an explain to the police officer if they turn up that you are trans gender and wanted to be treated as a terrorist with access to legal aid so you can have your nationality evoked and have to live up north for the rest of your volatile life...as for your CV the world will always need ditch diggers..
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bazz cargo

Retired Supervisor
Making notes.... You seem to have a grip on this aspect of life, what did you get done for?
Everyone wants to experience so much so quick without really understanding it all..make sure your dressed as a woman an explain to the police officer if they turn up that you are trans gender and wanted to be treated as a terrorist with access to legal aid so you can have your nationality evoked and have to live up north for the rest of your volatile life...as for your CV the world will always need ditch diggers..
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And so, Nigel and his team of carpet chewers are ahead in the opinion polls. We are about to let the criminals lead us into dark places. In twenty years time, if we still have a civilization, this will be an interesting miniseries on Netney.
 
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