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    Looking at all of the comments the main consensus seems to be "don't use this thing as a stumbling block unless it benefits the story or has a personality" correct? I could give it a personality easily but i kind of figured that it would be seen as a sort of cliche in it's own right. "Oh here we go another possessed monstrosity to cleave in two with our holy blades!" I thought that that might get boring after awhile so i wondered if there was a way to create a superman like villain that wouldn't be so easy to defeat with just brute force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojack79 View Post
    Looking at all of the comments the main consensus seems to be "don't use this thing as a stumbling block unless it benefits the story or has a personality" correct? I could give it a personality easily but i kind of figured that it would be seen as a sort of cliche in it's own right. "Oh here we go another possessed monstrosity to cleave in two with our holy blades!" I thought that that might get boring after awhile so i wondered if there was a way to create a superman like villain that wouldn't be so easy to defeat with just brute force.
    I think this is something that probably comes down to knowing and understanding your audience, Rojack. It's not easy to give direction or evaluation on a character idea based on nothing but a synopsis, let alone a broad superlative, with no real context or way to gauge your execution.

    Some books function quite happily with shallow 'super villains' (Benchley's Jaws, comes to mind - the shark doesn't exactly have a personality) but these are generally carried by (1) Sheer evocative power of writing and (2) The inner-world of the other characters. The originality and emotion and complexity is still there, it's just located outside of the 'villain' themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyscars View Post
    I think this is something that probably comes down to knowing and understanding your audience, Rojack. It's not easy to give direction or evaluation on a character idea based on nothing but a synopsis, let alone a broad superlative, with no real context or way to gauge your execution.

    Some books function quite happily with shallow 'super villains' (Benchley's Jaws, comes to mind - the shark doesn't exactly have a personality) but these are generally carried by (1) Sheer evocative power of writing and (2) The inner-world of the other characters. The originality and emotion and complexity is still there, it's just located outside of the 'villain' themselves.
    So the villain is carried by the other characters and the conflict that they bring into being when they clash? Ok now that make's sense.
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    If the villain is indestructible, then the heroes have to alter their idea of what winning means to them.
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    Does Gus on Breaking Bad count as an indestructible villain, since it's a real challenge to beat him or knock him off for Walter White, until Walter finds a weakness he has to exploit?

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    Does Gus on Breaking Bad count as an indestructible villain, since it's a real challenge to beat him or knock him off for Walter White, until Walter finds a weakness he has to exploit?
    He got killed by a paraplegic in a wheelchair, if I remember right. So nah.
    Last edited by luckyscars; August 15th, 2019 at 07:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Rotten View Post
    Go see Idris be Black Superman.
    Gotta make some plans for that.
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    Twas fun.
    Great character interactions. Will make you aspire to have more fun with your characters.

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    Antagonists are as powerful as the protagonist's biggest weakness. That's my opinion on the topic.
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