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    By the way, Ralph, have you thought about what the weather would be like on a planet like that, if it does have an atmosphere? Especially at the margins between the light and dark sides?

    ...not the sort of spot you even wanna plan a day trip for, much less make any long-term plans for habitation.




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    But that's all based on, as you said GD, our rules for life.

    We only think we know the rules for life spawning. Fantasy and fiction have beings made of energy, of light and such, so there could be millions of different ways life could form on a planet like that. We just dont have the science or imagination to think of it.

    Hell, the life on the planet could be the wind, clouds or other things we see as natural events, able to traverse both sides of the planet without consequence, viewing the world below.
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    I dunno... Even here on earth we have critters living right next to undersea volcanic vents that would cook most other life forms, but they get along just fine. And at the other end of the extreme are animals that survive in frozen environments, and generate their own anti-freeze that circulates through their bodies.

    And that's not even taking into consideration that life elsewhere might be generated under a whole different set of rules, and use an entirely different chemistry than anything here does.
    I have seen it posited that life originated in such vents and adapted to our more temperate world later. That is why scientists get excited about a geyser on an ice covered moon (of Saturn?), it could point to life beneath the ice.

    Some rules for life seem better than just 'That's the way it is here'. Spectroscopes show which chemicals can combine at star distances, silicone seems to be the only one that could possibly make complex and varied enough compounds to make life, besides carbon of course, and if it did it would have to be very hot, you will never get to shake hands with a silicone based life-form
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olly Buckle View Post
    Some rules for life seem better than just 'That's the way it is here'. Spectroscopes show which chemicals can combine at star distances, silicone seems to be the only one that could possibly make complex and varied enough compounds to make life, besides carbon of course, and if it did it would have to be very hot, you will never get to shake hands with a silicone based life-form
    Yep, based on what we currently know, that's all true.

    However, I'm of a mind that what we know probably isn't all that much, when it comes right down to it... and that sooner or later something else - some other bit of information we don't have and don't even know is there to have - could change everything we think we know.

    As for shaking hands with a silicon-based life-form... I don't expect it to ever happen either.

    ...but I'm certainly not gonna argue with he/she/it if it ever does, and try to convince it that it can't or doesn't exist.




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    ...but I'm certainly not gonna argue with he/she/it if it ever does, and try to convince it that it can't or doesn't exist.
    If mankind follows its usual course it will cease to exist soon after coming into contact with him, it will probably make good frying pan liners or tyres or some such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olly Buckle View Post
    If mankind follows its usual course it will cease to exist soon after coming into contact with him, it will probably make good frying pan liners or tyres or some such.
    ...unless this silicone-based critter is of a similar bent, and decides humans are that final ingredient it's been looking for to perfect it's favorite home-brewed booze.

    ( By the way, if it's silicone-based, there's every chance someone will decide this creature will make good breast implants. Especially if it's pliable in a solid form. )



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    Although sci-fi always shows many races coexisting in the same environments, this is really more fantasy than fact.
    Humans evolved on Earth under a specific set of criteria.
    It is statistically improbable that we will find a lotta planets like Earth, with it's specific atmospheric chemistry, gravity, and radiation limits.
    More likely we will find a lot of planets that are ALMOST like Earth, but with a splash of ammonia in the atmosphere, or some other element that would be toxic to us.
    It only takes 1 extra element in the atmosphere to make the air unsuitable for humans.
    So the statistical probability is low that dozens of species would be able to breathe the same air, unassisted.


    My theory is that there will be many planets where humans don;t go because they are too hazardous. If aliens took over Venus, would we even care?

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    So the statistical probability is low that dozens of species would be able to breathe the same air, unassisted.
    The statistical probability is low in any one case, but with billions of galaxies each containing billions of stars the probability is that they do exist, and surely, once they had worked out the logistics, they would seek each other out.
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