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    After a frightening excursion to get food and supplies, the OCD has ramped up to nearly intolerable heights, which leads to unmanageable anxiety, which leads to depression, which leads to psychosis. I may have to duck out of here for a few days.

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    I hope you recover kentr. Especially since you've been giving advice to others here. You did advise me constantly on what to do especially not to give up (which led me to buying a microphone; which unfortunately won't get here until the lockdown is over in two countries-usa being one of them). I do hope you manage your ocd or prevent your depression. Stay strong and persevere.

    I am slowly trying to improve my writing skills (english). I have to adapt and use the current microphone I have. Which has been challenging. I can't tell if my basic grammar is right. Because of the sequence of the sentences. I am going to keep researching on how others have dictated their stories. I've got a bunch of college books. I am betting that I need a good composition teacher. I keep researching every day to see how I can overcome the difficulties.

    Feedback is key. I'll keep posting here probably due to frustration with the english situation.
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    The most difficult thing for a writer to comprehend is to experience silence, so speak up. (quoted from a member)

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    {{{{{KenTR}}}}} = Hugs. Hang in there, Ken. Just take one minute at a time. I'll be thinking of you.
    When the night has come
    And the land is dark
    And the moon is the only light we'll see
    I won't be afraid, no I won't be afraid
    Just as long as you stand by me.


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    The problems I have are called logical order of sentences or logical sequences of ideas. That is fixable. I will order a book when I receive my next payment.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079Q4H9MY...v_ov_lig_dp_it

    This is a workbook that deals with those problems. I think it's a college reader. The writer has an impressive background of credits. It seems this will be the next book I order. That way I can improve my English transitioning from one idea to the next logically. I haven't found a better one. If by some way this isn't enough of a good book for my problems. I suppose I can research courses. I did find one but it is out of my price range. Think 200.

    These are my frustrations. I feel more confident. I just dislike discouragement in general of people who say I should stop, or imply it. I have tried to improve. Plus in my past that was a very strong stress factor, for lack of a better word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theglasshouse View Post
    The problems I have are called logical order of sentences or logical sequences of ideas. That is fixable. I will order a book when I receive my next payment.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079Q4H9MY...v_ov_lig_dp_it

    This is a workbook that deals with those problems. I think it's a college reader. The writer has an impressive background of credits. It seems this will be the next book I order. That way I can improve my English transitioning from one idea to the next logically. I haven't found a better one. If by some way this isn't enough of a good book for my problems. I suppose I can research courses. I did find one but it is out of my price range. Think 200.

    These are my frustrations. I feel more confident. I just dislike discouragement in general of people who say I should stop, or imply it. I have tried to improve. Plus in my past that was a very strong stress factor, for lack of a better word.
    TGH can you elaborate on your writing/sentence problem maybe someone on here can help?
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    TGH can you elaborate on your writing/sentence problem maybe someone on here can help?
    Ever since he was seven Howard had placed a headset under his mask to help him spy on people he disliked. With the help of that invention, he could receive messages from computers. It gave him ideas on what he could say. He could talk about any subject. The device used the world's online library. It enabled him to speak his mind as a computer sent messages to his eardrum. This was what he called the alter ego made by a computer. He suddenly wanted to use it to save the forests. He tried to think of how he could save the world. In fact, some aliens did wear masks. Even mutants had done so on purpose to prevent being discriminated against. However, no one besides him used the devices. It was something the very rich used. It was a recent invention.
    Hello H. Brown. Pleased to hear from you again. I will me more than pleased to hear your opinion and get help on this. Thanks for being so supportive. Or anyone for that matter that volunteers to give an opinion on the writing sample or work from a logical development perspective or order of ideas and logic.

    I think the first sentence indicates my paragraph it is not logically sequenced because it does not reflect that he is "spying on people he disliked." This is the first paragraph of my story I posted in the workshop.

    https://www.writingforums.com/thread...ience-fiction)

    That's the problem the rest of the paragraph must use maybe I think cause and effect, illustration, examples maybe to develop it. I read that brainstorming ideas before writing the paragraph is a good strategy. I must also avoid repeating the same ideas in other sentences. That and reading model paragraphs helps. That is just my opinion. I am not that familiar with those ways to develop paragraphs. But I need to look for some examples on the internet meanwhile. When I receive my next payment I should be able to get a bigger picture on what is wrong. I have a lot of college readers (textbooks on writing). I did a google search on logical order and sequencing of ideas in sentences. I got a lot of results that looked promising on websites that offered explanations on a google search. However, I have some college readers and none of them address logical sequencing though they mention cause and effect, illustration, example, and so on...

    The book covers description, and narration in depth.

    By logical sequencing I mean to say the sentences lack unity or don't cohere, and this creates problems of logic and sequencing.

    Those are my thoughts. I received the advice to use, "and so" but I don't think that could work for me. I tried it. I did the first example correctly when asked by a member who helped me. The next example, where I wrote my work didn't work. I tried putting "and so" beginning each sentence and it didn't work. I think the book will help me as she the writer focused on this english background in her studies (and it is a workbook). If that doesn't work there's I can take a course on editing my work or on english. From someone who gives feedback on the logical sequence.

    The writer of the book has some background in english literature. So I feel she has the right specialization so that I can benefit from purchasing her book.

    I feel insecure of how to do it at this moment. I'd need to do further searches and researching) on the internet to find the answers I seek. Thanks H. Brown for volunteering to give your support, help, or your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theglasshouse View Post
    Hello H. Brown. Pleased to hear from you again. I will me more than pleased to hear your opinion and get help on this. Thanks for being so supportive. Or anyone for that matter that volunteers to gibve an opinion on the writing sample or work from a logical development perspective or order of ideas and logic.

    I think the first sentence indicates my paragraph it is not logically sequenced because it does not reflect that he is "spying on people he disliked." This is the first paragraph of my story I posted in the workshop.

    https://www.writingforums.com/thread...ience-fiction)

    That's the problem the rest of the paragraph must use maybe I think cause and effect, illustration, examples maybe to develop it. I read that brainstorming ideas before writing the paragraph is a good strategy. I must also avoid repeating the same ideas in other sentences. That and reading model paragraphs helps. That is just my opinion. I am not that familiar with those ways to develop paragraphs. But I need to look for some examples on the internet meanwhile. When I receive my next payment I should be able to get a bigger picture on what is wrong. I have a lot of college readers (textbooks on writing). I did a google search on logical order and sequencing of ideas in sentences. I got a lot of results that looked promising on websites that offered explanations on a google search. However, I have some college readers and none of them address logical sequencing though they mention cause and effect, illustration, example, and so on...

    The book covers description, and narration in depth.

    By logical sequencing I mean to say the sentences lack unity or don't cohere, and this creates problems of logic and sequencing.

    Those are my thoughts. I received the advice to use, "and so" but I don't think that could work for me. I tried it. I did the first example correctly when asked by a member who helped me. The next example, where I wrote my work didn't work. I tried putting "and so" beginning each sentence and it didn't work. I think the book will help me as she the writer focused on this english background in her studies (and it is a workbook). If that doesn't work there's I can take a course on editing my work or on english. From someone who gives feedback on the logical sequence.

    The writer of the book has some background in english literature. So I feel she has the right specialization so that I can benefit from purchasing her book.

    I feel insecure of how to do it at this moment. I'd need to do further searches and researching) on the internet to find the answers I seek. Thanks H. Brown for volunteering to give your support, help, or your opinion.
    TGH, do you ha e dyslexia? The reason I ask is because I have it and when I am writing something new I find that jump from part to part, idea to idea and these get jumbled along the way. I also repeat things that I have already written without realising it.

    Now whennit comes to my writing I find that once I am happy with a draft I read it over as an ebook to see what needs changing or what doesn't make sense as I edit each chapter alongside rereading. I know this is going to sound repetitive but the best way to get better is to continue writing.
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    Yes I think I might have dyslexia. That's why what people call logical sequencing I think gets messed up (I read on logical sequencing today). I jumble or go from one idea to the next with no unity. I don't develop the paragraph on that idea on spying. I do have dragon speaking software, and I ordered a microphone that won't arrive in the mail until the cornonavirus lockdown ends in the united states (which I use another microphone which isn't as good or accurate). I think I also have some problems sometimes with syntax. Some people have said that before. The microphone should solve the syntax problem. Some prewriting should help solve the other issues on how to develop a paragraph from a topic sentence.

    Also, I do think dyslexia would also fit the diagnosis, but I am not 100% sure as all I know is that I can read but when I read my work I speculate I have too many errors in syntax. Which taxes my brain, and makes it appear I have dyslexia and people have told me I have dysgraphia. To tell you the truth I am not certain I have it or the other condition. I can read a book but have attention span issues.

    I dont need a phonic system to read such as the method of using syllables to read.

    There are no special educators in english and only work in affluent bilingual schools. My mother tongue and the lingua franca is what doctors use. I found one day a doctor who knew english, but she thought I was crazy since I said I had schizophrenia and did not say shzioaffective disorder which is a milder form of schizophrenia (and that I was in recession from depression and in recovery). Which means she didn't want to help me.

    However, there are special ed tutors in schools. But they are usually working with very affluent kids. My parents earned more when not retired. We live on a pension that is around 6,000 dollars.

    The disaster is also reflected in the mental health system. There is only one addiction specialist certified in the country and I know him since he also happens to be my psychiatrist.

    However the strange thing is if I have dyslexia, why can I order my sentences perfectly when conversing with the everyday person or on the forums?

    But yes if I have dsylexia I wouldn't be surprised if I got that diagnosis, especially with so much difficulty writing.

    I agree with you on writing and practicing more is the only way. I also appreciate that you said that read it as an ebook. Thanks for the advice and your valuable experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theglasshouse View Post
    Yes I think I might have dyslexia. That's why what people call logical sequencing I think gets messed up (I read on logical sequencing today). I jumble or go from one idea to the next with no unity. I don't develop the paragraph on that idea on spying. I do have dragon speaking software, and I ordered a microphone that won't arrive in the mail until the cornonavirus lockdown ends in the united states. I think I also have some problems sometimes with syntax. Some people have said that before. The microphone should solve the syntax problem. Some prewriting should help solve the other issues on how to develop a paragraph from a topic sentence.

    Also, I do think dyslexia would also fit the diagnosis, but I am not 100% sure as all I know is that I can read but when I read my work I speculate I have too many errors in syntax. Which taxes my brain, and makes it appear I have dyslexia and people have told me I have dysgraphia. To tell you the truth I am not certain I have it or the other condition. I can read a book but have attention span issues.

    I dont need a phonic system to read such as the method of using syllables to read.

    There are no special educators in english. My mother tongue and the lingua franca is what doctors use. I found one day a doctor who knew english, but she thought I was crazy since I said I had schizophrenia and did not say shzioaffective disorder which is a milder form of schizophrenia (and that I was in recession from depression and in recovery). Which means she didn't want to help me.

    However, there are special ed tutors in schools. But they are usually working with very affluent kids. My parents earned more when not retired. We live on a pension that is around 6,000 dollars.

    The disaster is also reflected in the mental health system. There is only one addiction specialist certified in the country and I know him since he also happens to be my psychiatrist.

    However the strange thing is if I have dyslexia, why can I order my sentences perfectly when conversing with the everyday person or on the forums?

    But yes if I have dsylexia I wouldn't be surprised if I got that diagnosis, especially with so much difficulty writing.
    So dyslexia affects people in different ways, my mum has dyslexia and she can't read well on screens, whereas my dyslexia does not inhibit my reading but effects my spellings and they way I think about things. I also find it hard to explain what I want succinctly in words.

    When it comes to writing I have found that rewriting and editing has helped to improve my jumbled up sentence structure.

    Posting my work on here and having other members work with me on my grammar and having a second pair of eyes go over my work helped me to work on being able to see my own mistakes that originally looked roght to me.

    Now having dyslexia does not stop someone from being able to write as many think, it just means we have to be more maticulous in our checking and be open to other people's critism as they may be seeing something we can't.
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    Thanks, H. Brown for the encouragement and for sharing your experiences. I appreciate what you told me. I know I have some issues to overcome that are not impossible. Yes what you said being more careful is very much true. Maybe I am dyslexic but of a different degree and belong on some part of the spectrum. I appreciate your encouraging words. Writers get discouraged often. I am one who has experienced both. I go to this forum since they treat me correctly. There's no prejudice towards people who have disabilities and emotional disabilities. It is a very friendly community.

    Here below is a quote I found on the internet which I define as the logical flow of ideas. That's where I saw a course. If I eventually do enroll in a course it won't be now.

    1. Logical flow of content

    Logical flow of content and effective transitions tend to work together. For instance, when your ideas flow logically from one point to the next, finding a transitional phrase to glue the two lines or two paragraphs together will be easier than trying to join two discordant sentences.
    Writer Shaun Fawcett, who runs writing workshops on www.WritingHelp-Central.com, explains in greater detail:
    “One of the more common weaknesses I see in day-to-day writing is poor logical flow from one idea or point to the next. This usually takes the form of a bunch of seemingly unrelated phrases thrown together with little or no sense of sequence, continuity, or relativity…. Smooth, orderly and logical transitions from one thought to the other, one sentence to the next, and one paragraph to another are key to creating clear meaning and flow in any document.”
    For example, look at this “piece” below:
    A restaurant called Sehnsucht for anorexics has opened in Berlin. The restaurant employs a bulimic waitress and an anorexic chef. The restaurant deliberately uses non-food names, such as: Seele (Soul, a cappuccino crème dessert) or Hallo (a lobster bisque).
    Berlin has many unusual restaurants. There are two “blind” restaurants where guests eat in pitch darkness, served by blind waiters. There is another restaurant where you eat what you’re given, then pay what you think the meal is worth.
    How exciting is that? Can you see that these paragraphs are barely related to each other? Not only are transitions missing, but the flow of the paragraphs is off as well.
    As we said above, transitions glue facts and explanation together and help to keep the reader reading. Transitions can be phrases created by the writer, revealing the writer’s opinion, or even colloquialisms, like “Right?”, “No, really?”, or “Well, so you thought…”.
    Here are a few examples of transition words and phrases, but remember, there are hundreds more that you could be using.
    https://www.nzwriterscollege.co.nz/W...ola+Meyer.html
    Last edited by Theglasshouse; April 2nd, 2020 at 08:08 PM.
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