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    Sloppy or correct?

    I have noticed lately that "is" and "are" are not always matching the subject in writing or publishing sites.

    For example, "XYZ Publishing are dedicated ...". It's a single publishing company, so shouldn't the verb be "is"? I've seen it a few times. I hesitate to even submit to a publishing company that has poor grammar on the website.

    Even this site's current quote has me scratching my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack of all trades
    For example, "XYZ Publishing are dedicated ...". It's a single publishing company, so shouldn't the verb be "is"? I've seen it a few times. I hesitate to even submit to a publishing company that has poor grammar on the website.
    I don't think that is entirely out of line. What it is implying is that 'we the people' at XYZ publishing are dedicated .... Using 'is' implies that the corporate entity XYZ Publishing is dedicated ... which comes across as much more impersonal.

    I am sure someone gave serious thought to the wording originally.
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    UK: "Manchester United are pleased to announce they have signed Memphis Depay on a five-year contract".

    U.S.: "Manchester United is pleased to announce it has signed Memphis Depay on a five-year contract".

    It's not sloppy or incorrect.

    It's to do with the fact that in American English, collective nouns are almost always treated as singular. In British English, that isn't the case.
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    Alright. What about "Breaks is not writing."?

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    I assume the person who wrote that quote omitted the word 'taking' from it. In full, it would read:

    "Taking breaks is not writing".
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    "It is better to be feared than loved, if one cannot be both". ~ Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    I assume the person who wrote that quote omitted the word 'taking' from it. In full, it would read:

    "Taking breaks is not writing".
    Assumption. But if you assumption is true, that quote falls into the "sloppy" category.

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    Not at all.

    "Taking breaks are not writing" would be sloppy . . . and incorrect.

    If we shelve the plural, that quote would read, "Taking a break is not writing".

    Again, perfectly fine. In other words, more breaks equals less writing.
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    "It is better to be feared than loved, if one cannot be both". ~ Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince.

    "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer". ~ Bruce Lee.

    "In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few". ~ Shunryu Suzuki.

    "Give a man a mask and he will show you his true face". ~ Oscar Wilde.

    "He who learns but does not think is lost; he who thinks but does not learn is in great danger". ~ Confucius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Not at all.

    "Taking breaks are not writing" would be sloppy . . . and incorrect.

    If we shelve the plural, that quote would read, "Taking a break is not writing".

    Again, perfectly fine. In other words, more breaks equals less writing.
    Except that there is no "taking" in the actual quote.

    "[Taking] Breaks is not writing." would work.

    And I agree that more breaks means less writing. And with that in mind, it's time for me to log out and get busy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack of all trades View Post
    Except that there is no "taking" in the actual quote.

    "[Taking] Breaks is not writing." would work.

    And I agree that more breaks means less writing. And with that in mind, it's time for me to log out and get busy.
    It's a common omission.

    "Don't know what I'm going to do" instead of "I don't know what I'm going to do".

    "Long way to go" instead of "There's a long way to go".

    It's that type of sentence.
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    "It is better to be feared than loved, if one cannot be both". ~ Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince.

    "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer". ~ Bruce Lee.

    "In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few". ~ Shunryu Suzuki.

    "Give a man a mask and he will show you his true face". ~ Oscar Wilde.

    "He who learns but does not think is lost; he who thinks but does not learn is in great danger". ~ Confucius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    It's a common omission.

    "Don't know what I'm going to do" instead of "I don't know what I'm going to do".

    "Long way to go" instead of "There's a long way to go".

    It's that type of sentence.
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