[Health] Do you smoke?

[InnerFlame00]

Never. Not if someone paid me would I do it.

My mom used to smoke, but she would only do it out on the porch, even in the middle of Michigan winters. She never took it in the house, and I respect the hell out of her for that looking back now. She would smoke in the car though, and that is where I grew to hate the things. The smell always irritated me, giving me nausea, headaches, and a sore throat if I was around it for more than a few minutes. Whenever we were in a restaurant and someone was smoking I would yell, as loud as I could, "UGH SOMEONE IS SMOKING THAT IS SO GROSSSSS!!!" and being five years old meant I could get away with it (embarrassed my mom though, for sure!) but nowadays if someone's second hand smoke is making me feel like I'm gonna puke I just try to vacate the area.

I would also throw away her cigarettes any chance I got lol. Eventually she quit cold turkey and whenever she got the urge to go to the store and buy some she would yell at me and my brother to come sit on her so she couldn't get up to go buy some till the urge passed. Really, we weren't heavy enough to weigh her down but I'm sure the reminder of why she was quitting (for our sake) was helpful.

As for the cancer thing, it comes down to the genetic lottery. Some people can do whatever the heck they want to their bodies and get away with it. The majority of people, however, are going to feel adverse affects of some kind. At the very least you have a dampened sense of taste and smell and decreased lung capacity.

Sugar is a addictive, true. But I would rather sit next to someone eating cake than by someone who is smoking lol. Moderation is key for anything that can alter your brain chemistry (which includes sugar, caffeine, alcohol, and even some spices). I think the difference here is that inhaling smoke isn't good for your lungs, period. Whereas having a certain amount of caffeine or alcohol every day can have good effects (although, rarely do people stick to the amount recommended for benefit and go way over!)

[dale]

i personally never give my kid cigarettes unless she's really strung out on crack.

[walker]

Never. Not if someone paid me would I do it.
But I would rather sit next to someone eating cake than by someone who is smoking lol.

Me too! Obviously somebody eating sugar can't harm you directly, like second-hand smoke.

But eating sugar is not a victimless crime. Eventually everybody has to pay, literally, for everyone else's health care, which is why you are starting to see talk of taxing sodas and the like. The more that things like diabetes are epidemics, the more that insurance rates go up, or taxpayers or health care providers have to foot the bill directly for people without insurance, etc.

I wish I could have taped myself having a discussion like this twenty-five years ago. I would have justified the smoking, the eating, whatever floats your boat, man! I'm still like that in real life, I mean, whatever people want to do with their life is fine with me, I'm not pushy, and yes, I do grab a cheap ice-cream cone when I go shopping at Costco, but I have tried to make a few semi-reasonable decisions about how I'm going to deal with things like cigarettes and sugar going forward. Live and learn.

[dale]

Me too! Obviously somebody eating sugar can't harm you directly, like second-hand smoke.

But eating sugar is not a victimless crime. Eventually everybody has to pay, literally, for everyone else's health care, which is why you are starting to see talk of taxing sodas and the like. The more that things like diabetes are epidemics, the more that insurance rates go up, or taxpayers or health care providers have to foot the bill directly for people without insurance, etc.

I wish I could have taped myself having a discussion like this twenty-five years ago. I would have justified the smoking, the eating, whatever floats your boat, man! I'm still like that in real life, I mean, whatever people want to do with their life is fine with me, I'm not pushy, and yes, I do grab a cheap ice-cream cone when I go shopping at Costco, but I have tried to make a few semi-reasonable decisions about how I'm going to deal with things like cigarettes and sugar going forward. Live and learn.

yeah. government healthcare is basically the keystone of totalitarianism.

[Crowley K. Jarvis]

I gave myself an overstimulated pancreas by having a huge red bull and giant candy bars every other day. Of course, genetically I'm predisposed since every other man in my family is type one. I'm honestly surprised there's still such a lack of knowledge about blood glucose and sugar.

They think being diabetic means sugar is the devil and you can't have any. They still need sugar, haha. It just means, A the insulin in your body either isn't being absorbed, or B, your pancreas is now dead and will never make insulin again. People also don't know that a baked potato will raise your sugar more than a slice of cake.

But more on topic... As with physical tobacco, I'm sure any risks or effects of vapor will become more known just as the product becomes as widely used.

So I suppose I'm inside that first generation that won't know anything until it's too late. Still, it does seem, at present, much less irritating than actual smoke, and, for me at least, it's easier for me to get the nicotine.

I've tried many cigars actually, which apparently can make you dizzy hella' quick, and they did nothing. Actual cigarettes had a much shorter effect, and the physical effects were so annoying that it wasn't worth it for me.

We may soon find out that vapor carries similar risks, but, at present, at least it's easier. For me, at least.

[Folcro]

I don't smoke. Both for health reasons and because I find it disgusting. I also have an addictive personality. I don't drink mainly for the same reasons.

[Terry D]

basically, saying a kid is going to get a lung disease from being around a parent that smokes is like saying a person is gonna
get blown up by a bomb just by walking past a group of muslims.

Not even close. It's more like saying a person has a good chance of getting blown up if they live in the same house where terrorists (of any sort) make bombs. But I'm not going to debate the risks of second hand smoke. I've seen them, I've experienced them. They are real.

[dale]

Not even close. It's more like saying a person has a good chance of getting blown up if they live in the same house where terrorists (of any sort) make bombs. But I'm not going to debate the risks of second hand smoke. I've seen them, I've experienced them. They are real.

they're as real as you want them to be. just like the muslims.

[Loveabull]

And then best buddie's brother caught him smoking as a kid and made him smoke the whole pack as punishment. Unfortunately rather than turn him off the habit, he's still a chimney forty years on.

[Pluralized]

Wife and I both started back smoking for exactly four weeks back in 2011. We both decided it was totally stupid and quit. So I had to suffer once again the horrid effects of nicotine withdrawal. Wouldn't wish that shitty sensation on anyone. Now I get to be all high horse again and act like the smell is super offensive to my sensitive olfactory glands.