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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by JustRob View Post
    Comma splices and semicolons? It makes me wonder what sort of discussions musicians have about their notation.
    I think it goes like this: Breve, semibreve, suffocate.

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    Maybe we should go back to calling 'comma splices' what we used to call them: 'run-on sentences'. That might deflect some of the legitimacy so many seem determined to ascribe to a practice that is, well, wrong.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmOvPain View Post
    Commas are a virus that must be stamped out at all possible times.
    I'm not sure whether this is serious, satire, or sarcasm.

    This kind of advice leads to people cutting commas for no reason. The proper advice is and should be: learn how and when to use commas.

    That's true for everything else in writing. People are always saying things like "cut adverbs" and "eradicate commas". What they should be saying is "learn when and how to use them", which, as a by-product, will automatically lessen them.
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    OK ok. I will level. The semicolon being "half-arsed" was an attempt at humour. However, that may not have been clear to everyone so I will confess. I agree that using punctuation properly can enhance writing. I may even over use punctuation myself. I would rather have an extra comma in there for a pause - or a semicolon to break up an unwieldy sentence. I think there was some humour floating around in other posts too. Perhaps that's not such a good idea in threads that are meant to be informative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    I'm not sure whether this is serious, satire, or sarcasm.

    This kind of advice leads to people cutting commas for no reason. The proper advice is and should be: learn how and when to use commas.

    That's true for everything else in writing. People are always saying things like "cut adverbs" and "eradicate commas". What they should be saying is "learn when and how to use them", which, as a by-product, will automatically lessen them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    I'm not sure whether this is serious, satire, or sarcasm.
    Is the second comma required there? I think I'm being serious now, but my jokes are often figments of other people's imaginations. That's why there's a comma in that last sentence, if for no other reason. Oh, there goes another one and another ...

    This kind of advice leads to people cutting commas for no reason. The proper advice is and should be: learn how and when to use commas.

    That's true for everything else in writing. People are always saying things like "cut adverbs" and "eradicate commas". What they should be saying is "learn when and how to use them", which, as a by-product, will automatically lessen them.
    Exactly my sentiments. Learn why the rules are there and then you'll know when it might be legitimate to break them. I'm not sure about that last remark though. I positively enjoy writing extremely long sentences and wondering whereabouts the reader will get lost because they haven't paid proper attention to the punctuation. One of my favourite characters on TV was Sir Humphrey in "Yes Minister" because his dialogue, or rather monologues effectively, appealed to me. One does wonder whether his lines in the script contained any commas at all though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustRob View Post
    Is the second comma required there? I think I'm being serious now, but my jokes are often figments of other people's imaginations. That's why there's a comma in that last sentence, if for no other reason. Oh, there goes another one and another ...
    Yes, the second comma is required.

    Is there really such a thing as serious satire?
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    "It is better to be feared than loved, if one cannot be both". ~ Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince.

    "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer". ~ Bruce Lee.

    "In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few". ~ Shunryu Suzuki.

    "Give a man a mask and he will show you his true face". ~ Oscar Wilde.

    "He who learns but does not think is lost; he who thinks but does not learn is in great danger". ~ Confucius.

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    This thread became lulz in a nerdy way.

    But really no, semicolons ARE half assed punctuation.

    TL;DR? They're literally there to omit something that should be there in its place.
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  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmOvPain View Post
    But really no, semicolons ARE half assed punctuation.
    No, they're not.

    *Rolls eyes*
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    "One morning I shot an elephant in my pyjamas. How he got into my pyjamas I'll never know." ~ Groucho Marx.

    "It is better to be feared than loved, if one cannot be both". ~ Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince.

    "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer". ~ Bruce Lee.

    "In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few". ~ Shunryu Suzuki.

    "Give a man a mask and he will show you his true face". ~ Oscar Wilde.

    "He who learns but does not think is lost; he who thinks but does not learn is in great danger". ~ Confucius.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Yes, the second comma is required.

    Is there really such a thing as serious satire?
    The second comma is the one before the "or". I assumed that was in the same league as comma "and".
    I would have written "I'm not sure whether this is serious, satire or sarcasm." Am I wrong or have you confused the apostrophe with a comma in your count? That would explain your remark about serious satire.

    One can understand why commas are banned in legal documents.
    'Sharing an experience creates a reality.' Create a new reality today.
    'There has to be some give and take.' If I can take my time I'm willing to give it.
    'The most difficult criticism that a writer has to comprehend is silence.' So speak up.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmOvPain View Post
    This thread became lulz in a nerdy way.

    But really no, semicolons ARE half assed punctuation.

    TL;DR? They're literally there to omit something that should be there in its place.
    Like many apostrophes then. Is that being lulz?
    'Sharing an experience creates a reality.' Create a new reality today.
    'There has to be some give and take.' If I can take my time I'm willing to give it.
    'The most difficult criticism that a writer has to comprehend is silence.' So speak up.

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