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    My true love

    Romeo and Juliette is said to be the most romantic love story ever to have been written and Romeo the most perfect lover. Ever valentine – and not just at valentine – we girls (well, the guys too, but it’s us girls who get targeted the most) get bombarded with movies, songs and poems glorifying this true love that can’t be matched by anything else. A love that is worth dying for, now how can love get any better than that, right? I however tend to disagree. I think Shakespeare, when he wrote that story, or probably more accurately the rest of us, when we glorified that play – and it was just a play - made a very decent attempt at ruining love for the rest of us. This may sound a bit surprising, but I actually believe this to be true. It makes young girls – like the one still hidden deep within my heart – long for that kind of true love that comes in the shape of a guy climbing our balconies to speak heart melting words. It leads to disappointment every single time as in the real world those overly romantic gestures don’t happen. In the real world – where I have to live every single day rather than in Verona centuries ago – love comes in the shape of a guy who doesn’t always know the right thing to say, who doesn’t know the first thing about poetry let alone speak in verse and who works so hard at making a life for us that he can’t always spend as much time with me as I – and him too – would like. My guy is no Romeo. His love however is far more real than Romeo’s – who when it comes down to it is just a character in a play – can ever be. Its stories like Romeo and Juliette that have created an imagine in my mind – and I am guessing I am not the only one – that make me risk not recognizing the guy standing in front of me - who loves me for who I am - as my true love. So this valentine I could care less about Romeo, because I will be in the arms of my perfect lover who considers me worth living for. Love can’t get any better than that, right?
    I long for the day when MS stands for mystery solved!

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    That is both sweet and wise, Misti.

    As a father of daughters, I have to add that I have a pretty healthy aversion to young men climbing to a balcony with heart melting words. Sure, I hope there's a 'spark' there for my girls and their fellows (but I do NOT want any details about it), but over-the-top displays of affection smack of overcompensating.
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    I was lucky that my first love lived just up the street from me, she had light brown hair and blue eyes and had the prettiest smile. I fell madly in love with her, I even named my daughter after her. Years later we both ended up on facebook, I sent her a note and let her know that she had been my first true love and that I had named my daughter after her. She was shocked and she asked just how could have been so in love with her to do that. I replied it was simple, I remember after we broke up, I saw her walking across the gym floor and my heart hurt because it was broken, and knew I would never be the same. We were both in the 4th grade at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticweld View Post
    All I can say is that Mr InstituteMan... You are in for a heap of trouble!
    Yes, I am--but the fellows are in an even bigger heap of trouble, and they're eager to leap in.
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    I totally agree, and have a different perspective on the same problem. I'm a guy, as my avatar attests. I'm expected to have a lute with which to serenade my truest love, and to climb her balcony to prove my passion is true. I'm losing weight, and have lost a LOT, but I'm still too fat to be shinnying up a balcony for a girl. I've met some gals who had me climbing the walls, but that was because of the mind games.

    There's a lot of the love stuff that throws me for a loop, and the stereotypes are the worst part. I've got a Telecaster and an old amp I could rig to run off a car battery, so I might be able to compete with the lute, but if I won't climb a tree to get my favorite artificial fishing lure back...

    On a similar note, gals all talk about wanting a sensitive man who's mature, but half of us are judged by our ability to climb like a primate to demonstrate our love? That's got to be love because it's too illogical to be anything else.

    Stereotypes, and ideals garnered from works designed to entertain. R&J isn't a how-to manual, it's entertainment. So many people forget that.

    Love is like a puzzle for which few pieces fit well. I'm grateful that there are women in the world like the OP who know the difference between love and displays of meaningless influence. It stinks that I haven't found one of 'em yet, but I'm keepin' my eyes open.
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    Remember: in Romeo and Juliet the young lovers died. That sounds like a pretty bad outcome to me. I haven't climbed anything other than a few flights of stairs for my wife, but we are both still drawing breath.
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    I won't really get into my personal views on love because they are much too depressing for a 24 year old to have, but I have a gripe.

    What bugs me is that I see people with this "I can't live without you" mentality and just like Romeo and Juliette, they ended up dying for one another because they felt like they could not survive. It's just sad because their love died with them. There was no one to carry on any memory of what they shared in the end. I would like to think that if two people were together, and one of them passed on from the world that they would want the person they loved to continue on living. I dunno, tough life choices for those two.

    I agree that our culture, media, books, whatever it is that we consume to ease our minds, can nearly destroy it. There's such a screwed up view of love today in the world, sometimes it's very hard to believe what anyone says anymore. I think in today's culture as well, sometimes it seems that the only reason why someone says "I love you" is to gain something. Shouldn't love at least try to be selfless? Shouldn't it at least try to give just to give, without expecting anything?

    Heavy thoughts for a heavy subject. Love is really freaking heavy. >.<
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    Studies nowadays actually seem to suggest that feelings of attachment and love mostly stem from biological triggers in our body.

    Actions and words actually have much less of an effect than we tend to think.

    On the flipside, test subjects who were put in constant long conversation and eye contact experienced feelings of love, regardless of the other factors. Pretty strong ones too. But I'm not really a scientist. I just read too much of that stuff.

    I've always been bothered by that stereotype. That men will act a certain way, look a certain way, and all have a certain build. Even If I keep working out, at best I'll just resemble a basketball player. Won't ever be Hercules. I can't rock a mustache or any facial hair. Doesn't work. And I don't enjoy doing 'manly' things.

    Actually, if a girl has those crazy expectations, I'm not too fond of sticking around for very long. Sadly, in my own experience, as well as a few others that have posted of their love trouble, have experienced that most young girls have that version of their dream guy, and have everything fantasized and planned out in their head.

    It's sad. I don't want one of those girls. And yes, how I wish the media and fiction too didn't stimulate that thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InstituteMan View Post
    That is both sweet and wise, Misti.

    As a father of daughters, I have to add that I have a pretty healthy aversion to young men climbing to a balcony with heart melting words. Sure, I hope there's a 'spark' there for my girls and their fellows (but I do NOT want any details about it), but over-the-top displays of affection smack of overcompensating.
    You should have an aversion to it, I imagine Julliette's dad wasn't smiling at the end of the story
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ1985 View Post
    I totally agree, and have a different perspective on the same problem. I'm a guy, as my avatar attests. I'm expected to have a lute with which to serenade my truest love, and to climb her balcony to prove my passion is true. I'm losing weight, and have lost a LOT, but I'm still too fat to be shinnying up a balcony for a girl. I've met some gals who had me climbing the walls, but that was because of the mind games.

    There's a lot of the love stuff that throws me for a loop, and the stereotypes are the worst part. I've got a Telecaster and an old amp I could rig to run off a car battery, so I might be able to compete with the lute, but if I won't climb a tree to get my favorite artificial fishing lure back...

    On a similar note, gals all talk about wanting a sensitive man who's mature, but half of us are judged by our ability to climb like a primate to demonstrate our love? That's got to be love because it's too illogical to be anything else.

    Stereotypes, and ideals garnered from works designed to entertain. R&J isn't a how-to manual, it's entertainment. So many people forget that.

    Love is like a puzzle for which few pieces fit well. I'm grateful that there are women in the world like the OP who know the difference between love and displays of meaningless influence. It stinks that I haven't found one of 'em yet, but I'm keepin' my eyes open.
    I am sorry to hear you haven't found love yet. I am convinced that there are loads of woman out there who appreciate a sensitive guy, but they are usually the shy ones (like me) who don't look like a supermodel (like me) and who've had their heart broken more often than they like (like me) and that makes them a little weary of love and therefor harder to reach (but not impossible).
    I long for the day when MS stands for mystery solved!

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