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  1. escorial's Avatar
    Leo Sayer singing dressed as a clown was moving
  2. Winston's Avatar
    ...but thankfully they make up only a small percentage of the country.
    I try not too be too much of a pessimist, but I fear you're wrong PW. It may not be this time, or even over the next few years, but the ground work has been laid.
    Too many have taken the Blue Pill. The line for "crazy" has moved so far left, normal is now seen as fascist extremism. And when your opponent is no longer just wrong, but evil, the gloves come off.
    Violence will beget violence. I just don't see this ending well, for anyone.
  3. Plasticweld's Avatar
    I am not sure that clowns would be the right description. While they have taken the liberal view to the extreme, and seem to be in a race to destroy this country. I found none of them funny, none of them did anything but try and paint a picture of pure doom and gloom. Right now things are good, the economy is good, we are at peace, people are working and there is hope. None of the candidates even making any of those things better than they are today. Each of their programs seemed to dismantle what is already working.

    Not one of them has a chance with the average working American. Brain dead socialist will be happy, but thankfully they make up only a small percentage of the country. As long as they keep speaking and sharing their thoughts...they are doomed. That is enough to make me smile, they will have four more years of wearing a frown.
  4. escorial's Avatar
    Yep..were all gods
  5. Winston's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by escorial
    In a few short years there be no clowns/humans
    Esc, are you familiar with Fermi's Paradox? The Universe, even our galactic neighborhood should be teeming with life. It is not. Why?
    It is postulated that all intelligent life reaches a theoretical "wall". In most cases, that wall is the ability to commit global genocide without the moral evolutionary control to stop it. We consume resources until they are depleted, then kill each other over the scraps that remain.
    Maybe that's just the Universe self-regulating.

    Regardless, it's been real... I think. The universe could be a sim. If it is, it is a real buggy program.
  6. escorial's Avatar
    In a few short years there be no clowns/humans
  7. Stygian's Avatar
    I couldn't agree more. Free speech should be universal. Anybody should be able to say whatever they want. I may dislike every word, but I would be glad to defend someone's right to say it. If we start arbitrarily censoring people based off the moral compass if the most charismatic cult leader social influencers, we will end up with no meaningful discussions.

    A great example is the whole climate issue in Canada. Regardless of which side of the climate change debate you're on, 37 million people can not make any meaningful change to GLOBAL emissions. We could shut off our heating in winter, stop driving cars, and still not make a dent in CO2 global emissions. When I try to start this conversation, I get labeled as the reincarnation of Hitler for daring to challenge the hive mind lol
  8. Neetu's Avatar
    I don't know, Winston, that what we deem as the freedom to speak freely should be carelessly and wantonly used to whip up anger and hate. After all, speeches have been used to spread violence and powerful people have moved angry crowds (e.g. Hitler, known to most) to perform heinous acts. Words can be an extremely effective tool to have damaging impact on masses. To use such freedom with recklessness (on both sides of the aisle, or all sides of the aisle, for that matter) is abuse of freedom of speech, not responsible use of that freedom.
    And don't we teach our children when they are young to speak kindly, respectfully to others? If not, we should. Not just teach or preach but actually practice that simple wisdom that words do hurt, words inflict pain, words also heal.
  9. escorial's Avatar
    How free are you...
  10. Winston's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by escorial
    what would your ten commandments be.....
    Thou Shall Not Be a D Bag.
    I'd repeat it ten times. Maybe it would finally stick.
  11. escorial's Avatar
    what would your ten commandments be.....
  12. MzSnowleopard's Avatar
    Powerful words. I wonder if God regrets giving us the gift of free will. Look what we've done with it!
    Updated August 4th, 2019 at 02:32 AM by MzSnowleopard
  13. Neetu's Avatar
    A sort of reverse discrimination seems to be the case here. Like Affirmative Action. It's a rather unfortunate result of an unfair society which can't seem to balance itself on the right standards.
  14. Kevin's Avatar
    When Jr was in jrrotc the females there earned it. They went by grades and other measurable achievements. Chief and Commander were not namby-pamby sjws ; quite the contrary, so those girls had earned it. It was a culture of its own and the ratios did not reflect the school in general in multiple ways ; for instance lots more Asians than the regular school population. They also had the kids spinning rifles Fer chrissakes. That is not something any west coast public school would otherwise ever do and it was because rotc was not run by the district; it was navy ( at our school).
  15. Kevin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by escorial
    Who owns your country...
    the luminarians ...
    im creating a mercury/ old battery dump in my back yard. 50$ per load dump fee to anyone who is interested.
  16. escorial's Avatar
    Who owns your country...
  17. Plasticweld's Avatar
    When you truly live in a rural area... it means your neighbors have every right to do stupid shit, and things you don't agree with. Most people from the city or even suburbia have a hard time with the concept that what the other guy does, is none of your business. When you get rural areas that are run by those from some place else...smarter than all the locals, it does not take long for it to no longer be rural or what you chose to escape to in the first place. "Freedom means the other guys gets to do what he wants even if you disagree with him" The level of freedom that most are comfortable for most people is unusually small, in my experience.
    Any place with land use laws is not rural and not free.
  18. Winston's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by escorial
    Nirvana for sale
    We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children

    On my future acreage, I plan on a modest-sized house, only level and clearing enough for a garden and shed.
    I might do some brush removal for a walking trail. And yes, clear some space for a rifle range. Pew-pew.

    In the Seattle area (& WA State) they have to have laws to prevent D-Bags from clear-cutting their property. Denuded land causes slides, destroying the land and sometimes killing people. But folks today are so damn stupid, we need to have laws for what should be common sense.
    I just wanna live semi-off "the grid". Solar panels, rainwater reclamation and growing some of our own food. I'm not removing 100 trees so I can plant some vanity lawn and garden.

    Contrast this with where I used to live in Northern California. All the Nouveau Riche jerks from Silicon Valley moved into our pastoral community and built McMansions. Bulldozed the apple trees that had been there for 150 years and planted grapes. Out with the cows, in with the llamas.
    Even if I had that kind of money, no way. Not my thing. I don't feel the need to "terraform" my own planet.

    Esc, legally I'll own it, but in reality it's just a long-term lease. And I, for one, respect the landlord.
  19. escorial's Avatar
    Nirvana for sale
  20. Kevin's Avatar
    having had both ... Less neighbor's is much better than more. Wife one time said something about selling and moving into a condo. Uh-uh. I told her she'd be living without me then.
    Don't know what the building codes are up there but if you can build yourself a post and beam roof structure/pavilion, with a slab under it, stack rice hay bales as exterior walls, stucco them, then bob's your uncle.
    Uncle Bob, I occasionally visit and at times come bearing gifts of exotic and delicious foods. I would hope that you or some of your others are not just meat and potato types. Mmm-boy. Winston, you too.
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