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  1. escorial's Avatar
    I can say I have not been to good with people in my life...I accept that but often at a low ebb think man how did I let myself get like that...yep people are not a good influence in my journey so far
  2. Plasticweld's Avatar
    Great post from a man with grit...thanks for sharing.

    I am sure you know my thoughts on this :} lets just say that it is nice to read about the simple formula needed for success. Just plain old working until you can't. Not giving up mentally or physically, more importantly not calling success or failure "LUCK"

    You really do reap what you sow!

    Hope you and your family have a great Christmas.
  3. Winston's Avatar
    esc, from my experience, there is very little "luck" when dealing with people.
    I spent years in Law Enforcement and counseling. Its called "behavior modification". I'm not talking about manipulating people, but understanding what they need and want.
    The people I come across are simply another variable in life's equation. My job is to make the sides balance.
    And when it comes down to it, I'm willing to go full Kobyashi Maru. There are no "no win" scenarios.
  4. escorial's Avatar
    We all need a bit of luck in everything...for me luck is about the people who you come across throughout your life..be it customers,teachers..etc...bad /good luck often feels like an external Force one must accept...come what may..
  5. tinacrabapple's Avatar
    I agree. Do or Do Not. There is no try. -Yoda
    Updated December 23rd, 2018 at 06:02 PM by tinacrabapple
  6. Winston's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tinacrabapple
    There was an ad on the radio today about being planned for a disaster and how they store can help you with supplies. It was pretty remarkable- there are people out there getting prepared. I have to be prepared because I am a daycare, so I feel good about this preparation. I think, you just never know.
    Funny, I wrote this a month ago. 108 views. Aside from a few folks like you, I'm sad thinking how many people will get caught unprepared.
    Folks charged with looking after kids, we're more ready for anything. Comes with the territory. I worry about young students and old pensioners.
    This is not a value judgment, but folks that are use to someone else taking care of them are especially vulnerable.
    We'll have to do what we can. It would just be better (and safer) if more people opened their eyes and acted ahead of time.

    It's about to get a lot worse before it gets better. Be ready to lend a hand.
  7. Winston's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tinacrabapple
    I have a son and I'd like to see him go into the trades. Where I live their is a serious shortage of man power. It's really awful. I agree that this country may benefit from such a work program. It's a good idea!
    I'd like to take credit for the concept, but guys like Mike Rowe are at the forefront of such discussions (from a practical standpoint, not a social one as much). His group claims that there are currently seven million unfilled trade jobs in the US, most of them well-paying.
    But from a social view, think of how much healthier our society will be if we simply get a bunch of unskilled, underemployed young people into solid blue collar jobs. Many people's self-worth is derived from what they do. Doing nothing equals unfulfillment.

    Another thing Rowe espouses is the folly of encouraging young people to "follow their dreams". The result of this philosophy thus far has been twentysomethings living in their parent's basements, with crushing debt, and a useless degree.
    The alternative is to build useful skills, at a young age, in services that people actually need. THEN, after a young person has a better idea of their strengths and where they fit in the marketplace, they should further their education.

    And what work is below a man?

    "If a man is called to be a street sweeper, he should sweep streets even as a Michaelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, 'Here lived a great street sweeper who did his job well.

    ― Martin Luther King Jr.
  8. tinacrabapple's Avatar
    I have a son and I'd like to see him go into the trades. Where I live their is a serious shortage of man power. It's really awful. I agree that this country may benefit from such a work program. It's a good idea!
  9. Smith's Avatar
    You know, there was a time where a lot of that energy could've been put into a half-decent lady in a committed relationship. I guess I must be old.
  10. dither's Avatar
    Winston,
    I may be talking out my arse here but two words spring to mind tension and friction. Be it racial social economic whatever. We need to get to the root causes and try to educate people on how to deal with their own kinds of shit. Life , the world, is what it is. We can't changed it. Sounds like a massive task [ and nobody likes to think they're being pigeon-holed ], but I DO believe that much of what is going or has gone wrong can be narrowed down into not so many factors. Also, we need to start listening, and talking. I think.
  11. tinacrabapple's Avatar
    There was an ad on the radio today about being planned for a disaster and how they store can help you with supplies. It was pretty remarkable- there are people out there getting prepared. I have to be prepared because I am a daycare, so I feel good about this preparation. I think, you just never know.
  12. escorial's Avatar
    Death and destruction has made us civilized...I don't do faith but I'm sure there is more civilizing to come
  13. Winston's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by escorial
    ...not everyone died going over the top,so many died because of disease and conditions they lived in or shot or exploded by friendly fire an the military cock ups...
    And quite a few were shot for desertion and open mutiny. Italy was one of the worst. But there was also quite a lot in France.
    The Russians knew the Germans were ripe for revolution (many thousands died from starvation alone). The newly formed Soviet Assembly tried to hold out, expecting a general uprising in Germany. Instead, Russia fell into civil war, and Germany took more land before the treaty of Brest-Litovsk ended Russia's participation in the war.

    And all those deaths with Russians killing Russians? Turks killing Armenians? Russians killing Ukrainians? Arabs killing Ottomans? Fins killing Fins...
    None of those poor souls "went over the top". They just died the old fashioned way. By the millions.

    Even poor Belgium, knocked out early, lost a significant chunk of it's population as slave laborers in German factories (disease and starvation).
    Makes ya kinda glad the 20th Century is over.
    We're so much more civilized now, right? Right...
  14. escorial's Avatar
    Ovverheard two older chaps talking on the bus about Poppy's... does it matter whether you buy a red or white poppy...reply..not everyone died going over the top,so many died because of disease and conditions they lived in or shot or exploded by friendly fire an the military cock ups... unfortunately my bus stop arrived an I got off.
  15. escorial's Avatar
    After survival comes greed...
  16. TuesdayEve's Avatar
    What is tribalism based on… survival.
    What if there was no need for primal
    survival? Wouldnt that then eliminate
    competition? I believe it would take a
    few generations and the world collectively
    to agree on this, and there will always
    be tribalism/family/loyalty but the horrific
    atrocities we see globally might be
    minimal. Ever see Star Trek?
    Castles in the air?
  17. escorial's Avatar
    It all comes down to tribalism which survives in so many forms...all my life I have witnessed it..at school were the other schools were our enemy,fighting against other kids from other parts of the city...being a football fan..the list goes on..and it all comes under different names..whether your poor or rich it's human nature to act tribal...
  18. TuesdayEve's Avatar
    In todays modern world with all it’s
    technology, fastest communication
    ever and Big Brother’s offspring,
    some would say, war is on purpose.
    Someone’s purpose. If education is a
    key component to enlightening human
    behavior and greed/power the motivator
    behind atrocity, everything in between
    might be highly subdued if.... what?
    If the desire was there on a global
    scale. Unity of thinking equality for all.
    Sure theres a lot of people who feel
    that way, but not enough in powerful
    positions to turn the things around
    ...yet. There’s plenty of money out
    there it’s the direction that is too slow
    turning to save some of the African
    countries. Even if money was evenly
    distributed, there would still be
    corruption, part of human nature eh?
    Or is it? Or is it survival of the fittest?
    What if there was no fittest and we all
    fit? Everyone had everything they
    needed...and ecology, philosophy
    and art were the passions of world?
    Just a thought.
  19. escorial's Avatar
    The uniforms might change but people will just keep killing each other... quote from Robert Mitchum in a war film...
  20. Neetu's Avatar
    I think, personally, that people cannot change the minds of others if they are fixated on beliefs. I also think I can often recognize when it is going to be futile to argue and prefer to not waste my energy. Sometimes, you sense that there is flexibility and openness on the other side, though they might be firm in their convictions, at least you know they're listening and you're not just yapping. In those cases, I would state my reasons for whatever it is I think is worth conveying and explaining. So really, openness and communication is a two-way lane. You can't go the wrong way on a one-way street. I mean, you can but you could end up damaged yourself.

    I have often disagreed with people. I have been battered by those who have taken offense. However, my real friends and folks who have a grain of decency and acceptance, will always earn my respect. Even when they disagree with me.
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