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Sacred Cows

There seems to be a bunch of sacred cows in America- and that's a curious state of being considering we routinely criticize others for zealotry or religious fanaticism.

One of these is, of course, the recent debate around sports personnel taking the knee. Apparently, this is a huge affront to people because it shows that they don't love America.

My question...what exactly is America, and why are you so in love with it? Because from my standpoint, few people ever really like America. What they like is their opinion, visons, and ideals on things and those people co-opt the symbol of America as a sort of battle-standard. You see, there are Americans and true Americans. Loyal, patriotic Americans.

But I think that's all bunk. No I don't support "America" because that's too large an abstract a term to fall behind. It means nothing...and anything. There's no clarity to it. It's like saying I'm "against freedom" by not allowing free speech. If that means yelling in my wife's face or slandering her about whatever views you have, you're probably right.

But more importantly, if we are to follow the lore of the land, the "love of state" is completely antithetical to the philosophy of democracy. To remove your support from the government if you believe it functions against your interests or neglects your interests is probably the very heart of democracy. Did these people mount a rebellion? Are these people setting fire to things or blowing up buildings? There's so much criticism when someone does riot from outrage, but apparently the alternative isn't acceptable either. Taking the knee is a simple, quite, effective way of demonstrating your opinion and, no, no one else gets to decide when and where you do that. That's what you call censorship. You don't like it done to you, and you shouldn't let it be done to others.

It doesn't matter who you are, the state is not something you should "love". Why, when you have crooks, vampires, and pedophiles running about? When you have thieves and liars and con-artists? People may say it's not the whole of government, but it never has to be. Scum in the right places can bring rot to the whole system. I get the feeling that people are upholding an ideal of what America is rather than the reality of what America has always been. Yes, there definitely has been improvement, but that's because there have been people who have directly challenged the government or the current nature of society- and they did more than just take a knee. America has problems. And it has more problems than simply your problems. While some issues get resolved, some issues never see the light of day unless they're submitted through unofficial sources because that's how corrupt our country is. We might not be as bad as the worst examples, but we aren't the best either. When people enter this mode of state-worship or state-love, I get the feeling they are sleep walking. They're blind to anyone else's complaints because in their delusion, only their complaints have legitimacy. Everyone else is lying.

You know what this reminded me of. It reminded me of the 1968 Olympics when two men put their fists in the air as a symbolic gesture to the world...and there was HUGE backlash for it. Oh, how selfish, how opportunistic, how disgusting. You know how many people rolled their eyes and stated that Black people in that time period were making a whole lot of noise about nothing and that they just want handouts or whatever? Police violence was the issue that started this whole thing, but I think it's become more symbolic of a baleful hypocrisy in the public and that's that while they all claim to love and support the freedoms and ideals and existence of America and her ideals, no one lives up to them. Clearly, they can't even stomach the idea of another persons opinions if it runs counter to their own. And they'll try and use love of America as some sort of punitive-bludgeon against anyone who disagrees. It follows right in line with a belief I had about society- that the evils at the top are mere reflections of the bottom. That while people are all in a twist about government censorship, they don't mind there own forms of censorship via shaming or appeal or force.

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Kind of agree that you shouldn't love the state because it poses some ethical problems but I kind of want to know why other than me saying government trust is hopeless to do which is one reason you should not love the state. Maybe nationalism though or patriotism of a country is sort of useless but I kind of have to say it has its uses.

Since there is a system to protect people, a system of checks or balances, it makes sense there is no full proof check. But anarchy imo or no government is kind of difficult to achieve. That is where the whole world was in the middle ages and before then, and countries had not yet emerged. The whole middle ages problem which I remember was chaotic.

Every country has so many selfish needs to overcome before they decide to give up a country. Most people who run government like to get paid and are power hungry. World government is a far way off unless technology ran the world.
 
I've been to numerous countries (list available upon request). I've seen what they have to offer.
(I AM NOT BASHING ANYONE"S NATION, just my observations)

Our northern neighbor, Canada, thinks that merely uttering certain words and phrases equates to "hate speech". You can be fined or imprisoned for this.
Many Asian "democracies" insist on cultural conformity. Improper ideas can result in social isolation and economic ruin.
British authorities would rather see a child die than let their parents send the child to America for treatment.
Mexican oligarchs rich on petrodollars ignore their poor, and shamelessly foist them upon their hapless northern uncle.
Almost every country in The UN dog-piles on tiny Israel. Like a mob of kids on a school playground. The US is a loyal friend.

Is America perfect? No. But it's better than every other nation. And I'll stand or that.
 
Theglasshouse;bt10747 said:
Kind of agree that you shouldn't love the state because it poses some ethical problems but I kind of want to know why other than me saying government trust is hopeless to do which is one reason you should not love the state. Maybe nationalism though or patriotism of a country is sort of useless but I kind of have to say it has its uses.

Since there is a system to protect people, a system of checks or balances, it makes sense there is no full proof check. But anarchy imo or no government is kind of difficult to achieve. That is where the whole world was in the middle ages and before then, and countries had not yet emerged. The whole middle ages problem which I remember was chaotic.

Every country has so many selfish needs to overcome before they decide to give up a country. Most people who run government like to get paid and are power hungry. World government is a far way off unless technology ran the world.

The nation is what it is not because of the will, honor, integrity, or morality or the nation, but the people who forced the nation to acknowledge those things. This country does not grant you your freedoms, you do. If you leave it to this country, it will take those freedoms right out from under you.

There's a lot of poetry and rhetoric surrounding "the nation" and such, but it's all just more of the piper's music. The virtue is not in the state, but the people. It is the willingness of the people to criticize wrongdoing whenever they see it and to act on it that is the real virtue, not the state, which is often supportive of these oppressions and abuses until it is forced to change.

This is why I find it so bizarre that people love the state. That they get so bent up about it. I think they've been taught to honor it like some sort of ancestor or spiritual overseer, but I think they're misjudging things. Not that I approve of all someone does in the name of criticism of the state either, but I certainly don't feel like I should or have to pledge allegiance as if the state were a king in whose presence I'm forced to bow, cow-tow, or render honors too. Am I wrong, or am I the only one who sees how this is counter to democracy?
 

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