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  1. Winston's Avatar
    Sir? Your operational template is ready:

  2. Umree's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticweld
    I think your assessment of reading the book as an adult, had a different effect than if you read it as a teenager. Maybe experiencing some of the same feelings as you were reading it, it would've had a different impact on you. I read it when I was in high school, I remember loving the voice and how Salinger spoke almost directly to the reader, making it an intimate conversation between the two of us. I have no real memory of the story, it was over 43 years ago, but do remember the style and the voice. A nice review, I love your perspective.
    Thank you for giving it a read! I agree, I really wish I had picked this one up earlier. It's a book that can have a profound impact if read at the right time.
  3. Plasticweld's Avatar
    I think your assessment of reading the book as an adult, had a different effect than if you read it as a teenager. Maybe experiencing some of the same feelings as you were reading it, it would've had a different impact on you. I read it when I was in high school, I remember loving the voice and how Salinger spoke almost directly to the reader, making it an intimate conversation between the two of us. I have no real memory of the story, it was over 43 years ago, but do remember the style and the voice. A nice review, I love your perspective.
  4. H.Brown's Avatar
    I like it, you definitely captured the frustration of editing and writing, it made me chuckle as I read each line. /i find that when I write poetry I must get it all done when I am writing that poem as if I leave it and try to come back to it at a later date I'm not in the same frame of mind I was in when I began writing it, makes me wonder how poets managed to write those epic poems, keeping the same mood flowing all the way through.
  5. H.Brown's Avatar
    Maybe that is his draw that he hypnotizes you into looking at him and listening to him, maybe he has eyes like the snake in Jungle Book...
  6. bdcharles's Avatar
    Very interesting - thanks for this The way I do cadence looks something like:

    BeHOLD, 1
    a DAY of LIGHT 2
    shall DAWN 1
    And a PRINcess shall RULE her KINGdom 3

    When SHE shall be SEAted 2, (plus allit)
    On a LOFty THROne 2
    and reCEIVE doMINion all OVer the LANd 4

    And SHE shall destROY the POWer of an ENemy 4 (plus Aaba rhyme)
    And disSOLVE the STRENGth of an ADversary 3 (plus aAba rhyme)
    Even HER that disDAINed great RICHes 3
    And SCORNed the TREASures of AMity 3 (plus aabA rhyme)

    [pause]

    For there shall aRISe 1
    A day of BRIGHTness 1 (plus assonance)
    and the TIME of SANdra's RULE 3

    The numbers are the numbers of stresses in the line. You could, I suppose, reasonably expect a pause at the end of each line, for me. But what I try and do is describe a journey of sound and drama with the prose. It starts simply - one stress, like a single knock at the door, then quickly, while you have them looking up, two stresses - hey, hey - and confirm with the one - yeah - then up to 3. It is I. Then a pause that says, I have your attention. I can wait and not lose you. It's a confident statement, that pause. The "song", if you like, has begun, so we won't go back to the beginning, so we carry on with just 2 stresses, at the level we were before, the level to which listeners and readers will be attuned, but with a little alliteration to spice things up. So: two - and two - but then there's FOUR!

    Four? What is this? Yet the energy level rises. Now we keep on at the four, bashing and banging, a army setting out on a swift march. We are in hale drama now. We keep that beat. Four, three, three (just lessening off a touch to emphasise the wow factor of four, still fresh in memory) but we introduce a rhyme to colour the engagement and keep it unique. If we were a graph we would be good sales figures and strong projections, plauteauing through the off season but solid in the knowledge that we will proceed regardless.

    And you know what? We did step up to the podium with a bang and yes, we strode confidently forward. We can pause now. We can go slow again and wrap up the theme. We're in control now. Readers aren't going anywhere. And we can summarise a three-beat keynote - for it is the Time of Sandra's Rule, underline it - and build something fresh after that.


    That's my view anyway. My stories try and do something similar.
  7. Phil Istine's Avatar
    "Behold, a day ..." is enjoyable to read, but I struggle to not view it as poetry. Only the line breaks indicate that it isn't. The piece flowed very well, in my view.
    Two new things I learned from this (1) disdain can be used as a verb rather than just a noun (2) I wasn't previously aware of the word "amity", even though I know enmity and some other am- words for love, friendliness etc.
    Thank you.
  8. Winston's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticweld
    Just last month, 53 Americans died in mass shootings…while 40,000 died from obesity
    That was heavy, man.
  9. Plasticweld's Avatar
    Just last month, 53 Americans died in mass shootings…while 40,000 died from obesity
  10. midnightpoet's Avatar
    There are some things, unfortunately, that are simply not fixable. Change human nature? Good luck with that.
  11. midnightpoet's Avatar
    The Captain obvious solution is of course for all of us to treat each other with mutual respect and understanding regardless of color, sex, ect.

    Is that possible?

    I wonder.
  12. midnightpoet's Avatar
    One more thing, is our current American culture encouraging the development of psychopaths? I would say that encouraging hate is not helping, and both sides are doing this.
  13. midnightpoet's Avatar
    Oh I should have said any firearm/
  14. midnightpoet's Avatar
    I know the issues on this, I do believe (and this is common sense) that there a bunch of people out there (including law abiding citizens) who have no business owning a handgun. The problem becomes how the heck can you fix that? You can't. Training classes shouldn't be a problem, yet you have training classes to pass drivers test, and the ones that pass forget everything they've learned when they get behind the wheel. The whole issue is a conundrum, but don't think there's a single law on the books that actually solves all the problems. Yet politicians keep trying to push that rock up the hill with their nose.
  15. Kevin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Winston
    Christ, are you living in 1955? With 10 cent payphones?
    Honestly, no one under 50 will understand the etymology of that phrase.
    entymology/ word origins. No one thinks about where it came from, what matters is if it's used or not. Jump the gun- wtf does that mean? Doesent matter, does it? Starting gun, yah. So? Anyway, dime is in the urban dictionary. No, I wasn't alive in '55. Haven't seen a phone booth in real life for a few years. People still know what a turntable is. Have to take a poll, maybe.
  16. Neetu's Avatar
    Yes, I was assuming they would be quieter like the electric cars. After all, if a Tesla drives so silently, why wouldn’t an e-bike. And you’re right - all that noise is totally unnecessary to the enjoyment of the ride. Probably better for the ears too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston
    They are almost silent. It's a real different experience from riding a legacy bike. You hear the hum of the motor and the tires on the road, and of course the wind. If you want to experience where you ride, instead of forcing it to experience you, electric bikes are for you.
    Now, there's an old school trope about "loud pipes save lives". To me, that's always been nothing more than old guys wanting to make noise, having an excuse to make noise. "Look at me! I'm cool!".
    I've seen guys on quiet bikes get hit, and guys on loud bikes get hit. You could blast a fog horn every 5 seconds and motorists still won't see you. Drivers today are more inattentive than at any point in automotive history.
    Will having a loud bike help? Maybe, maybe not. There's no empirical evidence. But what does help is being an active rider, and being alert. That's easier on a quiet bike.
    I'd rather focus on my riding than delude myself with the panacea that everyone can hear my bike, so I'm safe. But to each their own.
  17. Plasticweld's Avatar
    While 374 people were killed using rifles such as the AR-15 in 2016, 656 were killed using what the FBI calls “personal weapons” like fists, hands and feet. This includes physical altercations and incidents of pushing. Another 472 people were killed that year using a blunt object. The FBI lists hammers and clubs as examples


    What we need is hammer and club control.
  18. Winston's Avatar
    Oooompa Looompa loopidy doo....
  19. Winston's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Neetu
    Are they quieter than the other regular motorcycles?
    They are almost silent. It's a real different experience from riding a legacy bike. You hear the hum of the motor and the tires on the road, and of course the wind. If you want to experience where you ride, instead of forcing it to experience you, electric bikes are for you.
    Now, there's an old school trope about "loud pipes save lives". To me, that's always been nothing more than old guys wanting to make noise, having an excuse to make noise. "Look at me! I'm cool!".
    I've seen guys on quiet bikes get hit, and guys on loud bikes get hit. You could blast a fog horn every 5 seconds and motorists still won't see you. Drivers today are more inattentive than at any point in automotive history.
    Will having a loud bike help? Maybe, maybe not. There's no empirical evidence. But what does help is being an active rider, and being alert. That's easier on a quiet bike.
    I'd rather focus on my riding than delude myself with the panacea that everyone can hear my bike, so I'm safe. But to each their own.
  20. Neetu's Avatar
    I haven't seen an e-bike yet, anywhere on the roads around me, but they sure sound like a ride in the right direction. Are they quieter than the other regular motorcycles?
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