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  1. JustRob's Avatar
    I am amused that you are sick of people questioning whether something is poetry when I approach my prose in the converse way by wondering whether it is too poetic at times, but I agree that if it has the desired impact it doesn't actually matter how one categorises it.

    Years ago I posted a fragment of prose from my novel in the poetry thread asking whether it could be regarded as poetry or at least poetic, but nobody responded at the time. It's HERE. I think that in my writing I often seek to trigger subliminal associations in the reader's mind that add an extra dimension to it. Maybe this is where the parallel with poetry arises, that there is potentially more impact than the meaning of the words alone imparts. In that sense we are trying to share the deeper chemistry of our own thoughts with our readers I suppose.

    I have always claimed that my prose is my poetry, so clearly don't care much about the distinction myself.
  2. clark's Avatar
    Sick of the Prose/Poetry Whine

    If I now finally understand the Blog bit, this is the place to vent, presumably on a topic relevant to writing? well, I'm fed-up to HERE with the ongoing Is It Poetry or Not bleat. We have so many forms jostling for attention right now as 'poetry' that we should give up this annoying search for 'definitions' and just get on with our work. If 'definitions' prove of some value to further the work, they will emerge. In past eras, literary dictators could impose their will on writers--Dr. Johnson's imperious judgments were regarded by most 18th-century writers as only marginally less compelling than the Voice of God--but now we 'recognize' Form and Voice almost as though it comes from the skin through USE, rather than prescription.

    I came to this tentative conclusion from a lifelong fascination with Imagism and, more specifically and recently, from watching nd hearing KATE TEMPEST recite, without notes, a 25-minute poem on YouTube. Now, had she written it and memorized it? Amazing feat. Or had she written parts of it, had an outline in mind for the rest, and just made it up on her feet? Or did she make up the whole damn thing on her feet, in front of her audience? Of course, it doesn't matter: the poem is all. But look to her style--a significant component of her presentation is VERY prosy and conversational, like we were on her porch, chatting about society and childhood and relevance and failures and triumphs and like that there. But the overall intangible EFFECT is poetic. Intriguing...…………….need I care WHY?
  3. Phil Istine's Avatar
    Let's hope he wasn't an Everton supporter.
  4. Irwin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by mrmustard615
    Irwin. Why don't you post this in All Thing Music?


    I like a lot of your list by the way
    Thanks! I'm thinking about posting it there along with a reason each album made the list. Maybe in a few days.
  5. mrmustard615's Avatar
    Irwin. Why don't you post this in All Thing Music?


    I like a lot of your list by the way
  6. PiP's Avatar
    There doesn't appear to be a way to edit posted blog entries
    To edit select the little pencil icon next to the title.

    Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water
    This album would also be on my favorites list. Love it!
  7. Theglasshouse's Avatar
    Don't drink soda. It makes it easier to get kidney stones. That and it's bad for your kidney's and takes a good while to eliminate from the human body. I quit drinking that when I first got kidney stones which was 2 years ago.
  8. escorial's Avatar
    WF is a bit like Christianity in that it was the first to offer everybody an afterlife and WF is just like that...
  9. Irwin's Avatar
    Soda makes me have to pee a lot. I make sure to drink iced tea instead before a show or movie out. Otherwise, I'll have to get up every hour to pee.
  10. Smith's Avatar
    This post made me feel very understood. Thank-you.

    It's why I can't understand how people can say it's an enjoyable process, and guilt you into believing you might not be a writer if you don't enjoy every waking second of it. That's preposterous. It's difficult work that brings with it a lot of disappointment and frustration.

    An actual problem would be if you didn't enjoy it at all.
  11. dither's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Winston
    You are fortunate, as most new jobs in today's economy have odd hours and rotating days off. My daughter works retail, and her time off is at the whim of schedulers trying to comply with insane government regulations.
    I won't be sorry to be out of the rat-race Winston tbh. I shall miss the routine but hope I find something to help me while away my time. We shall see I suppose.
  12. Winston's Avatar
    As with most working people who are in regular employment, my daily routine is pretty much set in stone, from when I wake up in the afternoon to when I get home and go to bed in the morning.
    You are fortunate, as most new jobs in today's economy have odd hours and rotating days off. My daughter works retail, and her time off is at the whim of schedulers trying to comply with insane government regulations.

    Anyway, fun story. Its good to hear that you can appreciate the small moments in life, reflect on and enjoy them.
  13. escorial's Avatar
    Man speak with fork tongue...
  14. dither's Avatar
    I keep a coffee jar by my bed at all times. I almost always find myself being woken up by my bladder. I empty and wash it out with hot soapy water when I've had my sleep.
  15. Kevin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dither
    I've often wondered if there is anything that can be bought, something that a bloke might wear inside his trousers, but I couldn't imagine it being very comfortable. I remember many years ago, sitting in the passenger seat of a van when the driver said "here, you watch this", he switched on his windscreen washer, got windscreen wipers going, "and?" I asked.
    " I've just sprayed hat cyclist with pee". I looked down at the plastic-bottle that fed the windscreen-washer, it was half full of, yeah, you guessed it, pee. That really did happen.
    sprayed him with pee? Ohh, that's not nice. Some sort of resentment built up against cyclists? Camping I've gone in a bottle. That bottle afterward... Yech. Can't imagine saving it. Guess I can... It was an old plasterer's trick to save a bottle - a pocket flask like you might take a nip from- to put on your hands as you worked (yep, pee..) in order to counter the caustic, chemical effects of the cement on your skin. Stinky...
  16. dither's Avatar
    I've often wondered if there is anything that can be bought, something that a bloke might wear inside his trousers, but I couldn't imagine it being very comfortable. I remember many years ago, sitting in the passenger seat of a van when the driver said "here, you watch this", he switched on his windscreen washer, got windscreen wipers going, "and?" I asked.
    " I've just sprayed hat cyclist with pee". I looked down at the plastic-bottle that fed the windscreen-washer, it was half full of, yeah, you guessed it, pee. That really did happen.
  17. Kevin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by tinacrabapple
    Bladders are the worst, especially when u old and been drinkin' away from a toilet. Or drinking coffee away from a toilet. Sorta all snowballs into a mess...
    and coffee can effect solids as well as liquids in that desperate way, if you know what I mean. Holy cow!
  18. dither's Avatar
    It can become a desperate situation in no time at all. I have to plan even the smallest journey and I don't drink anything after two hours before going to work.
  19. tinacrabapple's Avatar
    Bladders are the worst, especially when u old and been drinkin' away from a toilet. Or drinking coffee away from a toilet. Sorta all snowballs into a mess...
  20. Kevin's Avatar
    That video is pure propaganda meant to reinforce the continued patriarchal capitalist domination. Even if one fifth of Kapuchea's population did die from forced collectivization this successfully implemented the removal and elimination of all the negative western influences from the country in the form of military personnel, former governmental leaders, workers, teachers, doctors, lawyers and all of the other city folk whose minds were already irrevocably contaminated with capitalistic western influence. All of this was necessary in order to make way for an equitable agrarian society of purely indigenous origin. The whole tone of the video is based on the lie that somehow these evil people were important or deserving of life when clearly they were an impediment to the Greater Future.
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