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Absolem
January 15th, 2017, 07:27 PM
There's a lot of jargon that goes completely over my head. I'd like to improve as a poet so at the expense of sounding like a noobskiis,

What's meter?

Bloggsworth
January 15th, 2017, 09:06 PM
http://www.volecentral.co.uk/vf/

You'll find lots of useful info here.

PiP
January 15th, 2017, 09:11 PM
Meter (http://www.yourdictionary.com/meter) is a unit of rhythm in poetry, the pattern of the beats. It is also called a foot. Each foot has a certain number of syllables in it, usually two or three syllables. The difference in types of meter is which syllables are accented and which are not.
Read more at http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-meter-in-poetry.html#yCFhM7BdeYXZpCRO.99

Ariel
January 15th, 2017, 09:11 PM
Meter is the beat of language.

http://www.writingrhymeandmeter.com/meter/why-counting-syllables-is-a-waste-of-time-rhymeweaver-stressed-syllables-unstressed-syllables-meter-metrical-lines-metrical-feet-meter-rhyme-rhythm-childrens-stories-fredrickson/

Absolem
January 15th, 2017, 09:12 PM
http://www.volecentral.co.uk/vf/

You'll find lots of useful info here.

The link has a lot of useful information. I bookmarked it.
I prefer to hear directly from a poet as opposed to a link. I wanna hear how certain things are explained by the poets who use them ya know?

Absolem
January 15th, 2017, 09:15 PM
So meter is the rythem of the piece? Could I get an example?

Ariel
January 15th, 2017, 09:22 PM
Well, there are several kinds of meter. As PiP explained the lines can be broken into different "feet". These feet break down between the accents on a line and the syllables in the line--at least in English. Every language breaks down differently. For example French is mostly accentual while Japanese is syllabic.

I'll be able to give you better explanations if I were at work where I keep my poetry writing books.

If I recall, you're a rap fan, right? Listen to the way Eminem emphasizes certain words (or any rap artist, really) and you'll hear the basics of meter.

Phil Istine
January 15th, 2017, 09:30 PM
The link has a lot of useful information. I bookmarked it.
I prefer to hear directly from a poet as opposed to a link. I wanna hear how certain things are explained by the poets who use them ya know?

To start with something fairly simple:

An iambic beat is two syllables with the stronger beat coming second (da-DUM) - like a heartbeat. Example from a line of mine (so maybe not the greatest example):

An island nation ruled the waves.

That has four iambic beats (stressed syllables are in bold). A lot of poetry has five iambic beats to a line (iambic pentameter).

If you want a line with syllables 1, 3, 5, 7 etc. stressed, that is fine too. It's like DA-dum. That is known as a trochee.

That's it for now. There are loads more but those are two of the most basic.

So, da-DUM = iambic
DA-dum = trochee

EDIT: Actually, I should really have referred to them as feet rather than beats. Just those two bits of information should give you something to play around with for a while.

Absolem
January 15th, 2017, 10:37 PM
If I recall, you're a rap fan, right? Listen to the way Eminem emphasizes certain words (or any rap artist, really) and you'll hear the basics of meter.

I notice Eminem uses a lot of stretch rhymes like ' birthday, first place' not to mention he's one of the best if not the best at keeping rhythem and rhyme within a beat. Is that what meter is? Keeping ryhmically consistant?

Ariel
January 15th, 2017, 11:09 PM
Meter can change from line to line but it sounds and looks amateur unless executed very skillfully. To answer your question simply, yes.

aj47
January 15th, 2017, 11:17 PM
That is an example of good meter. Rhyme has nothing to do with meter, specifically, though most good meter also rhymes because it sounds really nice.

Meter is the rhythm/beat/flow of a piece. There are names for specific styles of it. I tend to favor something called common meter which is what a lot of protestant Christian hymns are written in. I probably can't explain it better than someone on google. It's the rhythm of "Amazing Grace" if you're familiar with that hymn. Or "The House of the Rising Sun" (which is not a hymn, but you can sing it to the tune of "Amazing Grace" and vice versa--all common meter songs can be sung to one another, which is, to my understanding, part of the origin of the term).

Absolem
January 15th, 2017, 11:39 PM
I think I understand now.