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    Sex.

    This means you!

    No, not the act, but the gender.

    I wonder how you find writing from the POV of the opposite sex?

    I wouldn't know where to start, to me the other gender is a country largely unexplored...
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    I've done it, several times, and successfully. You wanna know how? I had female beta readers. The first time was for a contest. I asked every woman I knew and could trust for an honest opinion (or a reasonable facsimile thereof), and did a lot of rewriting.
    The second time, it was, um, embellished reality, and I made the lead character fall for me.
    That's the great insight I have to share.

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    The meaning of “opposite” is fairly clear. Not so much, “other”, in this context. One might wish to see things from the POV of a trannie.

    Okay, let’s not muddy the water unnecessarily.

    The answer to your question is just like the answer to every other writing-related question. There is no one-size-fits-all answer. There used to be a wee lassie on here who thought like a man, no femininity whatsoever, and it showed in her posts. Similarly, men come in varying degrees of heterosexuality and some of them would be perfectly capable, all other things being equal, of writing for Mills and Boone.

    Additionally, one’s reading habits (choice of author by gender) could well help the writer in this regard. Although, having said that, I now realise those reading habits might to some extent be determined by the amount of lead in one’s pencil.

    If you’re a typical red-blooded male and you really and truly want to write from the POV of a typical female – sheesh, what’s typical of either? – then maybe the only answer is to grit your teeth and do lots of reading.
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    No, that's not what I was asking - I wanted to know "I wonder how you find writing from the POV of the opposite sex?"
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    Sorry. The last line threw me. I thought you were looking for advice.

    I'm not the right person to answer your question. I can't write from a woman's POV.

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    I've written from both POV and have written short stories with men and women as the central character. I don't particularly find it difficult at all really nor do I really think about it that much once I start.
    Though I have read a lot of female writers/thrillers with female protagonists so maybe that helped?

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    Before I write my women characters, I put on a dress and a wig -- and just a touch of makeup. It really seems to help.
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    A similar thread had been set up that somehow is related to this topic. The link to that thread is here. This should help, I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFuhrer02 View Post
    A similar thread had been set up that somehow is related to this topic. The link to that thread is here. This should help, I believe.
    Not really - I'm not looking for advice, I was just interested in how others find writing out of gender. As I explained to XO

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    Before I write my women characters, I put on a dress and a wig -- and just a touch of makeup. It really seems to help.
    Do you go the whole underwear route (stockings, suspender belt, corset, bustier...), or is that only when you are reading other people's work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zootalaws View Post
    Not really - I'm not looking for advice, I was just interested in how others find writing out of gender. As I explained to XO
    The link he gave is a question pretty much identical to yours.

    Are you talking about writing in first person or third? I've never written a first-person story with a female as the protagonist, but I have written several third-person stories with female points-of-view.
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    I actually have an easier time thinking of and writing female MCs - somehow I just find them more interesting then the male ones. I can handle both, of course, but girls are more fun to write.
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    I don't find any difference between writing a female character or a male character.

    To me they are just people, each with their own unique personalities. Some females can be masculine, some males can be feminine, and vice versa. It covers the whole spectrum.
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    Some people might assume, when writing from the POV of a particular character, that there’s an absolute necessity to write in a way which is highly indicative of that character’s gender.

    This is not necessarily so. There are other qualities a writer can bring to their writing. I can’t write from the POV of a woman, but my WIP has a few women in it who occasionally take centre stage, and people who’ve seen it think it’s okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderan View Post
    I've done it, several times, and successfully. You wanna know how? I had female beta readers. The first time was for a contest. I asked every woman I knew and could trust for an honest opinion (or a reasonable facsimile thereof), and did a lot of rewriting.
    The second time, it was, um, embellished reality, and I made the lead character fall for me.
    That's the great insight I have to share.

    This, to me, seems like the most logical course of action. I plan to do the same thing with language and speech patterns, etc. in the novel that I work on occasionally, since one of the characters is English.
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    First off, I adopt a simple rule. If my POV character is a woman, since I am a man, I just think of what I would do and then write the exact opposite.

    From experience having grown up with three sisters and now being married for over 10 years, it seems to be sort of a universal law.

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