Welcome to Writing Forums, one of the fastest growing writing communties on the web.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and photo galleries. By joining our free community you will
be able to talk with other writers, get feedback on your work to improve your writing skills, discuss ideas, share tips & tricks, network and make friends!
Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support.
| Writers' Resources Links to and discussion of writing related sites and handy resources, including but not limited to publishers, on and offline magazines, contests and guides. |
04-27-2008, 08:55 PM
|
#1
|
|
Prolific Writer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: The Swamp (Where Else?)
Gender: Male
Posts: 347
|
The New Yorker
When I was young and tender, I took a grad level poetry course with Kenneth Koch. And he used to tell us that 'poetry in "The New Yorker" is not the end all.'
Thoughts? Not only on poetry, but on short stories - Is The New Yorker the end all for short stories and/or poetry these days? Is it where we should aspire to?
__________________
To identify the elements of style, perhaps we should begin by eliminating the idea of correctness.
- Mario Vargas Llosa
|
|
|
|
04-27-2008, 09:14 PM
|
#2
|
|
Ink Slinger
Join Date: May 2007
Location: On islands
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,581
|
OF COURSE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
05-09-2008, 10:48 AM
|
#3
|
|
Prolific Writer
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Southeast U.S.
Gender: Female
Posts: 216
|
Swamp,
I'll be completely honest and admit that, aside from publishing a well-received novel, seeing my name appear in the New Yorker would be the best thing that I could ever hope for as a writer. I know that is short-sighted, but you can't deny the certain amount of prestige that is instantly granted to someone who has that on their resume.
I heard, however, that their backlog is so voluminous that they don't even sift through their slush pile. Not sure if that is true, but the number of well-known author contributions is high. Well-known does not equal brilliance. So with that in mind, my answer to your question would be "no."
|
|
|
|
05-09-2008, 12:29 PM
|
#4
|
|
Mentor
Join Date: Jun 2003
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,443
|
Alice Munro tried and tried and tried to get into the New Yorker. They kept rejecting her with form letters. Then she got an agent. And the agent sent a story that had been rejected. And then that story was accepted.
Being published in the New Yorker is the Holy Grail of short story publishing. Land a piece there and expect to find yourself in talks for a book deal.
__________________
'First I lick the mucilage - it's kind of sexy. I put the little metal diddle through the hole.'
- Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without a Country
|
|
|
|
|
05-09-2008, 12:39 PM
|
#5
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South-east UK
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,280
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by strangedaze
Being published in the New Yorker is the Holy Grail of short story publishing.
|
Took the words right out of my mouth. |
|
|
|
|
05-09-2008, 05:15 PM
|
#6
|
|
Prolific Writer
Join Date: Aug 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 243
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike C
Took the words right out of my mouth.
|
How does The Paris Review fair when compared to the juggernaut? I'm aware of the prestige of both, but I'm uncertain as to whether one shadows the other. |
|
|
|
|
05-12-2008, 10:26 PM
|
#7
|
|
Scribe
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Gender: Female
Posts: 97
|
I'll second what Jocelyn said. I want it, despite liking the Boston Review fiction selections better than the New Yorker ones, at least that I've read recently. (Granted, I've read BR's most recent online choices, not any of the print ones, and I have all of 2006-2007's NYers in my living room, mostly unread...)
Right now, though, I'll take almost any/all publications I can get!
|
|
|
|
|
05-13-2008, 12:49 AM
|
#8
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South-east UK
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,280
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by SevenWritez
How does The Paris Review fair when compared to the juggernaut?
|
Does it matter? Are you torn as to which to submit to? |
|
|
|
|
05-13-2008, 01:56 AM
|
#9
|
|
Ink Slinger
Join Date: May 2007
Location: On islands
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,581
|
Quote:
|
Being published in the New Yorker is the Holy Grail of short story publishing.
|
I'd say that's akin to saying New York is the Holy Grail of cities to live in. (Personally I'd rather be tied to cactus and pissed on by lepers)
I have NO use for what they consider "great fiction" whatsoever. I'd much rather have something in Playboy (better money, too) althought they've slipped a lot from being a hallmark of short fiction.
I'd rather have a short story in Wired. Or Rolling Stone. Or Soldier of Fortune. Places that don;t normally publish fiction, but might if something really blew their minds.
That whole NYC as World Capital of Literature is a crippling sore on writing. |
|
|
|
|
05-13-2008, 01:57 AM
|
#10
|
|
Ink Slinger
Join Date: May 2007
Location: On islands
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,581
|
And don't get me started on their precious little fucked-up poetry.
|
|
|
|
|
05-13-2008, 02:37 AM
|
#11
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South-east UK
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,280
|
Lin, what do you think about the New Yorker's poetry selection? Are you a fan?
|
|
|
|
|
05-13-2008, 11:57 AM
|
#12
|
|
Ink Slinger
Join Date: May 2007
Location: On islands
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,581
|
I think it's the apex of the acme of paragons of superlativeness.
|
|
|
|
|
05-13-2008, 05:23 PM
|
#13
|
|
Prolific Writer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: The Swamp (Where Else?)
Gender: Male
Posts: 347
|
My understanding is that they no longer look at non-solicited stories. And they've all but gotten rid of their poetry. Kristan, I agree, I'd take publication in almost anything at this point. Lin, you are as subtle and as low key as ever.
__________________
To identify the elements of style, perhaps we should begin by eliminating the idea of correctness.
- Mario Vargas Llosa
Last edited by Swamp Thing : 05-13-2008 at 08:34 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
05-13-2008, 07:45 PM
|
#14
|
|
Ink Slinger
Join Date: May 2007
Location: On islands
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,581
|
Quote:
|
Lin, you are as subtle and as low key as ever.
|
Mr. Incremental, that's me.
Playboy and a lot of other high ticket mags also only invite, even if they pretent to have a submission policy. |
|
|
|
|
05-14-2008, 12:06 AM
|
#15
|
|
Best Seller
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Southwestern US
Gender: Female
Posts: 525
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swamp Thing
When I was young and tender, I took a grad level poetry course with Kenneth Koch. And he used to tell us that 'poetry in "The New Yorker" is not the end all.'
Thoughts? Not only on poetry, but on short stories - Is The New Yorker the end all for short stories and/or poetry these days? Is it where we should aspire to?
|
I read the short stories, the cartoons and look at the overpriced silver cat pin ads. Then I allow myself to fantasize about what it must feel like to have your short story published in it--fantasize being key.
Its kinda like how I once held a Stradivarius violin, let my fingers fall across the fingerboard but knew I didn't deserve to draw its bow across the strings yet because I was only 11.
__________________
~ paper tears~ please crit my poem
" I'm so sad like a good book I can't put this Day Back a sorta fairytale with you" ~Tori Amos
NO ~Joy Harjo
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:54 PM. Powered by vBulletin, Copyright ©2000-2007, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
|
|
Newsletter |
 |
|
Subscribe to Majestic
the official newsletter of Writing Forums and lit.org
|
|
Link to Us: 
|
|
