Looking for Talented Writers, Editors & Geeks - Page 7 - Writers Forum

joifulartist84 · 05-06-2008, 07:43 AM

I'm terrible at thinking up names, but I'm really good at art! Drawing, painting, photography, some Photoshop... I'd definitely be interested in some design, maybe even some slushing or editing.

Mike C · 05-08-2008, 12:08 AM

Most excellent.Slushing always required, design sometimes.

Mike C · 05-08-2008, 02:42 PM

The Decision is made...

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We have a title, we have an identity...

The Oddville Press.

Domain registered, hosting paid for, anyone who wants to come aboard who hasn't already said so... say so.

Swamp Thing · 05-08-2008, 02:53 PM

Sam Winchester · 05-08-2008, 03:35 PM

Great stuff, Mike. When's the party starting?

Sam.

Mike C · 05-08-2008, 04:06 PM

Watch this space, guys, but take your eyes off the screen occasionally to ponder the look, feel, taste and smell of the thing - especially the look. All ideas welcome.

Mike C · 05-08-2008, 05:03 PM

Right now.

theoddvillepress.com

Foxee · 05-08-2008, 05:11 PM

With a name like that I favor some surrealism for the cover. Hawke has been playing with some good images for it.

seigfried007 · 05-08-2008, 05:43 PM

Ditto that, Foxee. Maybe different pictures of small towns in various mediums--I'm reminded of Edward Scissorhands with the smiling happy suburbanites with the Easter Egg pastel houses

Mike C · 05-08-2008, 06:51 PM

Don't tell me. Show me. Or look back through the thread, see who was offering design services, tell them, mke them show me.

Mike C · 05-09-2008, 04:46 AM

OK Guys, final announcement. Offices have been constructed in your honour, and the coffee machine installed. Some people have had PM's from me (No favoritism; I just managed to trawl the first couple of pages before I got bored), some not. If you want the job, send me a PM, I'll send you a key to the executive washroom.

CMM_Kaleido · 05-10-2008, 11:30 PM

I have been assuming that written content will be submitted for one-time publishing rights. What is the framework for copyright regarding cover designs, illustrations, and/or logos created for the "look" of the e-zine?

Particularly, how will copyright be handled in terms of transferring rights for multiple uses (published in electronic format only?) and does the artist maintain control of any and all changes/completions to artwork or ideas? (ideas refers to designs and illustrations presented in thumbnail or rough format.)

Pete_C · 05-11-2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CMM_Kaleido

I have been assuming that written content will be submitted for one-time publishing rights. What is the framework for copyright regarding cover designs, illustrations, and/or logos created for the "look" of the e-zine?

Particularly, how will copyright be handled in terms of transferring rights for multiple uses (published in electronic format only?) and does the artist maintain control of any and all changes/completions to artwork or ideas? (ideas refers to designs and illustrations presented in thumbnail or rough format.)

Law states that copyright is based upon the idea, not the actual work. Therefore, if you respond to a request to design a page layout or a logo, and that is accepted, the person who makes the request (in this case Mike_C) owns the copyright. If he requests original artwork for consideration as a cover design, then the artist (in whatever form) owns the copyright and agrees to a one-time use.

Now, it is commonly understood that requested work for a common project, such as page designs, logos, graphics (other than those included as examples of another's work) belong to the person making the request. As I said earlier, it is Mike_C. However, because he doesn't own the idea for the project, copyright is actually attributed to the project itself. That is how a court would view it, as would a copyright lawyer. It stops an individual railroading an entire project.

So, if you design a page layout, a logo or another element of the general publication, the copyright remains wholly and unconditionally with The Oddville Press (either as an owned publication or as a general entity). If you contribute an original image to be used on the cover, in line with a submission process, you retain the rights to that image.

Non Serviam · 05-11-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete_C

Law states that copyright is based upon the idea, not the actual work.

Sorry to contradict you Pete, but it's completely the opposite: whether in US or UK law, copyright protects the execution rather than the idea.

So I could write a book about children who go to wizard school (using J K Rowling's idea) but I couldn't call the school "Hogwarts" (which is her execution of the idea). I could write a boardgame where you roll a pair of dice and move that number of squares around the board collecting cards--but I couldn't name the squares after the ones on the monopoly board. I could write a computer game where you run around shooting people, but I couldn't call one of the characters in that game "Duke Nukem". I could write a fantasy novel featuring elves, but I couldn't call one of my elves "Legolas". I could use the plot from The Tempest to write a science fiction story, provided I didn't call it "Forbidden Planet". I could write a song that uses someone else's tune, provided I don't copy their lyrics.

Or for a different test of the same principle, I can write down an idea for a story, but if someone else writes the actual story, the copyright in that story is theirs rather than mine.

Thus copyright law protects the artistic presentation: characters and their recognisable likenesses, specific plot points and scenes, and specific words and phrases. It doesn't in any way protect the ideas.

The law that protects ideas is called patent law.

Non Serviam · 05-11-2008, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete_C

Now, it is commonly understood that requested work for a common project, such as page designs, logos, graphics (other than those included as examples of another's work) belong to the person making the request.

Copyright initially vests in the originator of the work.

Normally the person making the request makes a payment of some kind to the originator--a fee or salary--which has the effect of transferring ownership to the requestor. In this case you need an agreement with the work's originator that makes clear what the parties' intent is.