DKL88

Hiya, I've just joined. I'm Dan, 19 from Birkenhead.

I know of a new publishing firm trying to get some would-be authors in print, mainly historical or autobiographical works. Message me if interested and I can let you know more details.
Cheers,
Dan

valeca

Why not just provide the publisher info in your post?

It raises suspicions when it's so "I'll-tell-you-about-it-in-secret"-ish.

I can't see a reason a new publisher wouldn't want the potential exposure, unless there's something less than above-board about them.

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Erik Buchanan

My guess is the new publisher is a vanity press. Pay them and they'll publish you, no matter how badly you write.

I will be happy to be proved wrong, however.

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Mike C

Sounds like bullshit, looks like bullshit, smells like bullshit... good job we didn't tread in it.

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DKL88

Reason for not mentioning too many details is due to the fact that some sites wont allow advertising and therefore, posts get removed.

The new publishers, the name yet to be decided, offers:

Full editorial services, scanning and design
Production to a format agreed with the author
ISBN allocation
Book listing on Amazon (in the UK and USA) and with the major UK wholesalers, who supply all bookshops
20 complimentary copies to the author
Production of a press release, which will be emailed on publication to the author's suggested contacts
A royalty of 50% on sales and a discount of 50% on author copies, even if a single copy is ordered

Yes, the author is required to pay a minimum of £1000, but it would still work out rather well. Unlike vaniity publishing, full editorial services are provided along with the rest of the above. We won't be priniting just anything and everything. The Director is a former senior commissioner from Gloucester-based Sutton Publishing so professionalism is certainly guranteed.

In theory, if an author with the minimum deal of £1000 and the book sold for £10 each. You would only have to sell 100 copies to break even and then any you sold directly yourself you would have paid ½ price, plus, you're getting 20% worth of your payment back in the form of complimentary stock on date of publication.

100 copies to break even is certainly achievable. My own first local book sold 1000 in its first year when I was with my old publishers, and that was pretty much me doing the publicity and ringing bookshops and newspapers.

My next book shall certainly be with this firm.

There's the info. Feel free for any questions.

And thankyou Mike for your politness

Erik Buchanan

It is time for me to write the following in very big, highly emphasized letters:

The money always flows to the author!

If anyone requires you to make an investment to sell your books, they are a vanity press, no matter what they say. That they have an editorial staff means nothing. That they come with good credentials means nothing. That they give you an ISBN number means nothing. That they list you on Amazon means nothing, except that they subscribe to Amazon print on demand services.

If you have to pay to get your book published, then you are using a vanity press. If you wish to do so, by all means, but unless you are a good marketer with a superior product, you won't sell many copies, and you won't make an impression on breaking in with real publishers. Also, make sure the deal includes your retention of all rights, including copyright on the book itself.

And on another note, DKL88, I find it difficult to believe that you are who you say you are. If you were actually a 19 year old who had published a book, you would have been trumpeting the value of your current publisher, unless that, too, was a vanity press that charged you money to print.

In fact, because the sentence you used was "my first local book," it suggests that you have published more than one. And given that a real publisher generally takes about 2 to 3 years to get a book on the shelf, either you went to a vanity press or you first got a publishing deal at age 15. The first is more likely than the second.

You can refute this by providing the name of this vanity press you are recommending, which you have yet to do despite being asked, as well as the title of the book that you claimed to have published, and the publisher of that one.

And to everyone else out there, remember:

The money always flows to the author!

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JollyMinstrel

Yeeeee-Haw!

You got a tip jar Erik?

That was one of the best def-slams I've seen in a while.

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Erik Buchanan

Thanks!

I do have a tip jar. Follow the link in my signature and buy my book .

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JollyMinstrel

I just saw the page... is the book suitable for teens? It sounds like something my elder daughter would love (I'm thinking Christmas....yea!)

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Mike C

Listing on Amazon is a given, really. I'm very interested in your deal with UK wholesalers though. Care to tell me which?

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Lost in Some Story

Hey everybody, I want to buy your crap. Got old socks? A toaster? A teapot that you don't use anymore? Nail clippers? Doesn't matter, I want it.

Just send me $1000 via post and I'll get to buying your stuff right away.

Cheers.
Lost

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Non Serviam

I thought every book with an ISBN number was "listed" with all the wholesalers. For a given definition of "listed", of course.

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Erik Buchanan

Thanks for the interest!

I'll PM you with details so I'm not hijacking this thread.

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Mike C

Indeed, but there's a huge difference between listing and distribution. Get a good distribution deal and the distributor will put your books in virtually every bookshop in the country. But I can count the number of vanity publishers who have distribution on the fingers of one foot.

There are dozens of tin-pot publishers like this (one of which has finally been forced out of business, thankfully) alll of whom make grand claims of what your book could do, but generally just leave gullible writers with a garage full of books they can't give away.

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Mike C

And you've gone from "I know of" to being a part of? What's that funny smell? Bull?

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