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Old 09-10-2006, 09:52 PM   #1
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Question manuscript format

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I just finished my book manuscript and before making the last changes I wanted to put it in the most popular version among publishers. If I want to self publish, do you know which is the manuscript format that most of the publishers want? Is it Word?

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Old 09-11-2006, 12:27 AM   #2
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Courier, 12 point font, double spaced, I believe it is. Some will suggest Times New Roman, but I've been reading it isn't as popular as Courier.
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You have two choices with manuscript formatting -- you can either format first or format last. I format first -- that is, I do the whole novel in exactly the same format in which I will submit it. It uses more paper for print-outs, but I can copyedit my work easily, and I don't have to mess around with it later -- when the words are done, so is the formatting.
Once you've decided when you're going to format, however, the next question is ... how?
I use two formats -- one for novels, and one for short work, both fiction and nonfiction. I have never had a complaint about my formatting, I have never had work bounced for formatting, so I know that both of these formats are professionally acceptable. These are not the only correct manuscript formats out there. There is, contrary to beginner myth and legend, no one single correct format, nor even one single correct typeface.
I'll give you both formats that I use here, and if you decide to use them, you can rest comfortable in the knowledge that, no matter what else happens, your work will not be rejected by a professional market because of its format. (Unless, of course, your particular market specifies a specific format. I know of no pro markets that do this, though amateur markets seem to be rife with this sort of 'our way or the highway' nit-picking.)

Here are the formats:

Novel:
  • Page Information
    • Margins -- 1.5 inches all the way around
    • Font -- Courier, Courier New, or other clean monospace serif font from 10-12 pt. (I use 12 pt. Dark Courier.)
    • Line spacing -- Double-space
    • Paragraph indent -- first line, 5 pt.
    • Header -- right justified, contains the following information:

      Last name/ TITLE/ page#

      A header does not belong on the cover page. Start headers on page one of the actual manuscript.

Cover page -- depends on whether you're agented or not.
  • Unagented:
    • Contact information -- Name and address, phone number and e-mail address in the top left corner of the page, single spaced, left-justified
    • Title -- centered, just above the middle of the page
    • by -- centered and one double-spaced line beneath the title
    • Name or pen name -- centered and one double-spaced line beneath the word by
    • Word count -- centered and rounded to the nearest thousand, one double-spaced line beneath your name or pen name
  • Agented:
    • Title -- centered, just above the middle of the page
    • by -- centered and one double-spaced line beneath the title
    • Name or pen name -- centered and one double-spaced line beneath the word by
    • Word count -- centered and rounded to the nearest thousand, one double-spaced line beneath your name or pen name
    • Agent's contact information -- Name, business name, mailing address, phone number (e-mail address if you have the agent's okay first), left justified, single spaced, bottom of the page
First page
  • Header -- should be in the upper right-hand corner of the page, and page number should be 1.
  • Chapter header -- can be anywhere from one to six double-spaced lines down from the top of the page, and can be centered or left justified. You can title your chapters, or just write Chapter One or Chapter 1.
  • Body text -- drop down two double-spaced lines to begin your story.
  • Scene breaks -- drop down two double-spaced lines, insert and center the # character, drop down two more double-spaced lines, and begin your new scene.
  • Subsequent chapters -- start each chapter on a fresh page. Keep chapter formatting and titling consistent with your first chapter.
Short work
  • Page Information
    • Margins -- 1.5 inches all the way around
    • Font -- Courier, Courier New, or other clean monospace serif font from 10-12 pt. (I use 12 pt. Dark Courier.)
    • Line spacing -- Double-space
    • Paragraph indent -- first line, 5 pt.
    • Header -- right justified, contains the following information:

      Last name/ TITLE/ page#

      A header does not belong on the title page. Start headers on page two of the actual manuscript. First labeled page number should be 2.
Cover page
  • Do not use a cover page with short work, either fiction or non-fiction
First page
  • Contact information -- Name and address, phone number and e-mail address in the top left corner of the page, single spaced, left-justified
  • Word count -- top line, right justified (you'll have to do this with a table if you're working with a word processor), either exact count, or rounded to the nearest ten
  • Title -- drop down four double-spaced lines, centered
  • by -- centered and one double-spaced line beneath the title
  • Name or pen name -- centered and one double-spaced line beneath the word by
  • Body of the story or article -- drop down two lines and begin.
  • Scene or section breaks -- drop down two double-spaced lines, insert and center the # character, drop down two more double-spaced lines, and begin your new scene.
Second and subsequent pages

  • Header -- should be in the upper right-hand corner of the page, and page number should be 2.
  • Body text -- begins on the first line, doublespaced throughout
From what I've seen/heard, this is pretty accurate.


I'll put a link to her site in the resource section now that I think on it... unless it's there already.

Good luck with the ms!

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Old 09-11-2006, 02:23 AM   #4
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As a publisher, I must say that format doesn't really matter that much to me. I prefer authors to write their text in Word, single-spaced, Times New Roman 12.

This works best when you have to format the text to the size the novel has to get.


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If I want to self publish, do you know which is the manuscript format that most of the publishers want? Is it Word?
Did you mean text formatting for publishers, or publishing format for printers?

If the later, Adobe (pdf files) are pretty standard, as are MS Publisher (pub files). You'll want to consult the specific printer to see which they prefer. If the printer ends up having to do any of the formatting themselves, it will likely add to the cost of the final product, so it's to your advantage to do it yourself and do it right.

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here's a link to the best ms format guides i've found anywhere:

http://www.shunn.net/format/

these are for work sent to traditional [= 'paying'] publishers... the novel format provided there is basically the same as for short stories, essays, or even magazine articles... just about any kind of prose...

but, as frank noted, if you're submitting to pods, adobe pdf is most preferred over the most universally acceptable program for traditional publishers, ms word... and, if going with a pod or any other form of vanity publisher, it's best to check their guidelines for how to send your ms...

best of luck with it... love and hugs, maia
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Old 09-11-2006, 08:40 PM   #7
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Thanks so much for your help!
I do have another important question. I have read that it is better to write novels with one space after each sentence period. However, in most websites it says that since Courier is a monospaced font, you should use two spaces. So I am confused, the manuscript should be submitted with one or two spaces after each period, since it has to be submitted in Courier font?
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I haven't double spaced after a period since... man, I think highschool.

I do a single space, but not sure what the 'standard' might be. *shrugs*
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Standard is now single space after a period, but nobody's ever been crucified for a double space.
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that's good to know, mike, 'cause i'm not gonna give it up!... imo, it simply makes good sense to double space between sentences, since that makes it easier to read and easier for editors to edit...
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I was using double sapces between sentences before I knew it was a rule (even if it's a not always used rule). I don't think I could give it up if I wanted to.
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I was using double sapces between sentences before I knew it was a rule (even if it's a not always used rule). I don't think I could give it up if I wanted to.
Ditto. when I write, it's automatic. Although, I could always just use the computer to find and replace it later.
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I have found out that the industry requires for all manuscripts 12pt. New Courier. They also require the manuscripts to be double spaced. In addition to that, the following must be put on the front page at the top left: (1) Name (2) Address (3) Phone Number and (4) E-mail address. On the top right include the word count. I hope that this helps.

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