Does This Sound Like a Good Plan - Writers Forum

Kimahri · 02-21-2006, 06:26 PM

Hey everyone, I came up with a plan for my writing and getting published and I was wondering if you guys thought it was viable and also if anyone has tried this before and succeeded being yourself or someone you know. First off, I am a pretty new writer still in my own mind though I have been doing it for three years now and my first book is fantasy. Now, I do not only want to write fantasy. I really have several ideas for stories that lie in other genres but right now I figured I would start with fantasy to get my name out there in the industry. My plan is to start writing short stories that are fantasy and try to get them published in a sci-fi/fantasy magazine. I figured that if I did this while I worked on my first novel and shaped it into as near perfection as I could then by the time I was ready to shop it around to publishers then I would have credit to my name already and the publishers could see that I am a devoted writer and a good one at that. Please let me know what you guys think. Any comments will be appreciated.

kimahri

SeattleGhostWriter · 02-21-2006, 06:38 PM

Actually, every writing book, every writers magazine you pick up, and every place you go for writers conference - what you just said is exactly the advice given. Start writing out small, circulating and building your writing portfolio.

mammamaia · 02-22-2006, 05:19 PM

he's right... that's the standard plan for getting one's work published... best of luck to you... hugs, maia

Kimahri · 02-22-2006, 06:06 PM

Well, I guess I am on the right track then. Thank you for responding.

kimahri

aliceedelweiss · 02-22-2006, 06:52 PM

I think it’s good. I always agree with starting small then working your way up. Plus, if you get published in magazines, at least your name is out there in the world. I've come across books from people that I never knew existed, it almost makes me scared to ever get published, have something out there and always be unknown...anyways besides my weird fears...good idea!
Alice

Mike C · 02-23-2006, 05:29 AM

Excellent plan.

Jay Harrison · 03-22-2006, 11:15 PM

There are new techniques for submitting original literary works. Have you ever looked at submitting your works to a literary home based business opportunity publisher?

Mike C · 03-23-2006, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Harrison

There are new techniques for submitting original literary works. Have you ever looked at submitting your works to a literary home based business opportunity publisher?

Yes Jay, and there are new ways of fleecing writers every day too. You want to sell me a useless membership (of which there seem to be a bewildering array of levels) then take all rights to my work - All submitted works become property of THE NEW HOPE TEAM, unless released back to submitter.

There are many ways into publishing; if I want to do it via a cynical profiteering scheme like this there are plenty of choices. A large portion of your website is devoted to telling me why I should part with my money. Not a lot about how you intend to sell the work to pay the writers the royalties you promise.

Oh, no, silly me. NEW HOPE TEAM publications can be purchased only by NEW HOPE TEAM Members, who buy directly from company.

So I pay you to join a club, you publish my work, but the only people who can buy are the other jerks dumb enough to pay membership. Hardly going to make anyone wealthy, Jay, is it? Except maybe you.

MLM is a scam.

Let me clarify.

I pay you to join. I assign rights to my work to your 'club', and my work gets printed.

I then have to BUY copies of your book/mag/rag back from you in the hope that I can sell sufficient copies to make a profit.

Jesus, vanity publishing at least is honest.

Mike C · 03-23-2006, 07:42 AM

Jay was good enough to send me a PM -

Mike,

Thanks for the free plug. So many do not understand the concept of having a true chance to getting published for just the one time memberhsip of $15. I have not researched British trade regulations yet, as we are eventually expanding into foreign territories. I am almost ready to expand into Canada.

Have a blessed day.
In Christ, Jay Harrison

I fear he misunderstood what I said.

Jay, let me clarify. I think your offer of publication for the $15 fee is ripping writers off. You expect them to pay you to be published, then to go out and sell your tawdry rag for you. only one person will profit from this scam, and it's not the writer.

You are working in your own best interest, not that of the writer. That is a bad thing. A very bad thing. Just in case you think this is another plug, I think your scheme stinks like the corpse of a dead dog's arse.

Most writers understand they have a true chance of being published in a reputable publication for $15 less than you're stinging them for - just submit to regular magazines.

Your scheme is a scam designed to line your own pockets at the expense of gullible writers. Is that clear enough for you, Jay?

Jay Harrison · 03-23-2006, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike C

Jay was good enough to send me a PM -

Mike,

Thanks for the free plug. So many do not understand the concept of having a true chance to getting published for just the one time memberhsip of $15. I have not researched British trade regulations yet, as we are eventually expanding into foreign territories. I am almost ready to expand into Canada.

Have a blessed day.
In Christ, Jay Harrison

I fear he misunderstood what I said.

Jay, let me clarify. I think your offer of publication for the $15 fee is ripping writers off. You expect them to pay you to be published, then to go out and sell your tawdry rag for you. only one person will profit from this scam, and it's not the writer.

You are working in your own best interest, not that of the writer. That is a bad thing. A very bad thing. Just in case you think this is another plug, I think your scheme stinks like the corpse of a dead dog's arse.

Most writers understand they have a true chance of being published in a reputable publication for $15 less than you're stinging them for - just submit to regular magazines.

Your scheme is a scam designed to line your own pockets at the expense of gullible writers. Is that clear enough for you, Jay?

Shame. Shame. Shame. You caster of stones. You statements are mere opinion, or are they libel and slander. Comments like that from a person who has a business exploiting those who have not purchased a ten dollar book on simple HTML scripting. Judge not less thee be judged. Put your stones back in your pocket and take a look at your own overpriced "scam".

**Penelope** · 03-23-2006, 10:16 AM

Gentlemen - please curb your replies and simply espouse caveat emptor.

**Penelope** · 03-23-2006, 10:21 AM

In response to the original post ... you know what? I was simply minding my own business and I read this submission call on a related website. I blithely submitted two poems and one short story and ... HOLY TOLEDO!!! ... one of my poems was accepted .... the next thing I know is an affiliate of Random House is telling me my poem will be in a book which will actually be in book stores and on amazon.com ... not only that but they were going to send me $50 US and a free copy of the book! Never in my wildest dreams did I ever expect to have such a thing happen and it stunned me beyond belief that this windfall occurred on the fourth poetry submission I'd made.

Jay Harrison · 03-23-2006, 10:27 AM

Penelope, awesome response. I like how you showed that there numberous ways to get published and compensated. Sometimes it takes a little bit, of what we teachers tell students....thinking outside of the box.

Mike C · 03-23-2006, 12:05 PM

Congratulations, Penelope. Quality will always rise to the surface.

I trust they aren't charging you money for the privilige of being published? Or expecting you to sell the publication yourself after? There are numerous paths to publication, but the one where the publisher pays you is the sweetest.

**Penelope** · 03-23-2006, 01:42 PM

I will be perfectly honest and declare I would never pay to have my poetry or prose vetted or published. I have paid postage (to another print medium) to receive a book which contained two of my poems but was not required to do so. I write for pleasure and it is not a blinding ambition to be a 'famous' author so I have no desire to send anyone one thin dime. I think this opinion of mine is based on my scope of how I look at my writing. How satisfying would it be if I went off chasing rainbows and threw gold into the pot? I can't imagine being thrilled with my 'success' if I paid for it.