Chippewa - Writers Forum

shnitro · 07-12-2005, 08:10 PM

A friend of mine came across them and is considering submitting work to them. I asked her to please let me ask you people first because you guys seem to be on the up and up with these "vanity publishers". Anyone have any experience with Chippewa Publishing.
Stephanie

Kane · 07-13-2005, 08:34 AM

Whenever I see or hear Chippewa I think of that one song.

I'm an Indian outlaw
Half Cherokee and Choctaw
My baby she's a Chippewa
She's one of a kind

All my friends call me Bear Claw
The Village Cheaftin' is my paw-paw
He gets his orders from my maw-maw
She makes him walk the line

You can find me in my wigwam
I'll be beatin' on my tom-tom
Pull out the pipe and smoke you some
Hey and pass it around

'Cause I'm an Indian outlaw
Half Cherokee and Choctaw
My baby she's a Chippewa
She's one of a kind

I ain't lookin' for trouble
We can ride my pony double
Make your little heart bubble
Lord, Like a glass of wine

I remember the medicine man
He caught runnin' water in my hands
Drug me around by my headband
Said I wasn't her kind

Cause I'm an Indian outlaw
Half Cherokee and Choctaw
My baby she's a Chippewa
She's one of a kind

I can kill a deer or buffalo
With just my arrow and my hickory bow
>From a hundred yards don't you know
I do it all the time

They all gather 'round my teepee
Late at night tryin' to catch a peek at me
In nothin' but my buffalo briefs
I got 'em standin' in line

Cause I'm an Indian outlaw
Half Cherokee and Choctaw
My baby she's a Chippewa
She's one of a kind

Cherokee people
Cherokee tribe
So proud to live
So proud to die

Dumbest song in the freakin world. Wow, I just realized it's a Tim McGraw song. Isn't he the lucky bastard who married Faith Hill?

mammamaia · 07-13-2005, 09:20 AM

here's what preditors and editors has on them:

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Chippewa Publishing: "ebook publishing company interested in novellas (25,000 to 50,000 words) of any fiction genre (horror, sci-fi, erotica, romance, paranormal, mystery, etc). We have our own editors and do not charge for publication. Our authors earn 40% of the sale when a sale is made. Our authors work directly with our editors for edits on publications. We hold exclusive rights to the work for 3 years."

...keep in mind that being 'e-published' is not considered being 'published' by the mainstream print publishing world... and generally, very little money is made from such sites...

Mike C · 07-13-2005, 08:16 PM

Expect to sell 3 - 6 copies. Depending on how generous your friends and family are. You can usually depend on your mother to buy 2 copies.

shnitro · 07-17-2005, 08:03 PM

That's a shame. She has over 50 what she calls "short books" and I've read most of them. They're pretty good. Thanks for the advice, I'm going to tell her not to waste her time.
Stephanie

chippewapublishing · 08-01-2005, 08:22 PM

Chippewa Publishing is not a vanity publisher. We do not charge for publishing nor have we ever charged for publishing. Our authors and editors are very happy to publish with our company.

Please do your homework and check our website before spreading these untrue rumors. State your sources so that I might advise them of the correct information.

If anyone has any questions, you may contact me directly at rebeccap at chippewapublishing dot com.

Sincerely,
Rebecca Pack

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Originally Posted by shnitro

A friend of mine came across them and is considering submitting work to them. I asked her to please let me ask you people first because you guys seem to be on the up and up with these "vanity publishers". Anyone have any experience with Chippewa Publishing.
Stephanie

chippewapublishing · 08-01-2005, 08:25 PM

One quick note - one of our best sellers sold over 100 copies at fictionwise.com, another close to it. We're just starting out so you can expect more later on.

Don't worry, either, the mainstream will catch up because they're starting to publish their titles in ebook format as well. It is only a matter of time.

Mike C · 08-02-2005, 01:29 AM

Not vanity? Apologies!

To help newer readers, can you tell us:

Do you pay an advance or royalties on publication?

What percentage of sales is paid to the author in royalties?

What percentage of submissions do you reject?

To me, selling 100 copies isn't something necessarily to brag about. On average, how many copies should an author expect to sell?

Thanks for the feedback.

Mike

Mike C · 08-02-2005, 01:35 AM

Sorry, I should have examined the website further. 40% royalties. An average e-book price of $2. That means 80c to the author.

Your top earners, who spent months writing and honing their novels, earned $80.

Doesn't strike me as being a reasonable return - still, a better and more honest option than PublishAmerica!

chippewapublishing · 08-02-2005, 03:15 AM

We've only been around for a short time. Sales will continue to grow as our customer base does. I know some authors who publish for epubs who have been around a long time and make quite a nice income from their ebooks. Some of these authors write full time.

People can either wait around for that NY publisher to someday maybe pick up their book or they can grab some experience in the business by trying one of the smaller trade publishers or an epublisher. We pick up about 5% of the submissions we receive so it is not like it's a free-for-all market.

In fact, one article in the UK states that paper will be shelved and ebooks will be the norm in the next decade. Libraries all around are giving up their paper and only offering digital work from computers at the library and ebook downloads. Schools are lending laptops and iBooks to kids with all school material in electronic format.

Things are changing, there is no question about that.

btw...we do offer trade paperbacks on special books and books over 50,000 words or more, trilogies, and anthologies. Our first trade paperback will be out late fall 2005. Our focus and drive is still the ebook market where most of our titles are listed.

Talia_Brie · 08-02-2005, 04:06 AM

Rebecca,

Thanks very much for visiting the forum and explaining what Chippewa Publishing is all about.

My personal opinion is that ebooks will never fully replace print, but you're right that there is a switch in emphasis. At the very least e-publishing would result in a reduction in operating expenses. This alone should make Chippewa Publishing a viable commercial enterprise.

Good luck. I hope to hear more from Chippewa in the future.

Mike C · 08-02-2005, 11:33 AM

Thanks for the clarification.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the future of paper - when was the last time you saw someone on the train with a pocket reader?

However, each to their own. I wish you luck.

chippewapublishing · 09-05-2005, 01:16 AM

Let's see, BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit in SFO/Oakland, etc), 2001 and on an airplane flying to Wisconsin the same year. Unfortunately, we're pretty slim on the mass transit out here in Western Wisconsin, but I personally know of quite a few people who read books on their handhelds. In fact, fictionwise.com, one of our distributors, is in the top 20,000 of the Alexa.com ratings, which is pretty good.

I'm not saying that ebooks are 'taking over' the publishing world, at least not yet, but they are becoming more and more popular. One of our competitors sells 40,000 ebooks per month from their website alone.

This year we have a lot of plans which include ebooks on CD, MP3s on CD and download and trade paperback editions, but our focus will always be epublishing.

Thanks for the luck, any business in the publishing industry certainly needs it.

Sincerely,
Rebecca

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Originally Posted by Mike C

Thanks for the clarification.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the future of paper - when was the last time you saw someone on the train with a pocket reader?

However, each to their own. I wish you luck.