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03-29-2008, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ilasir Maroa
* Then you'll probably find me to be a real bore,
# but shouldn't that be "I find grammar fanatics rather tedious, and spelling fanatics even more so."?
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* i dunno about that, i try not to get too personal
# butt, why should it be, i prefer the way i wrote it
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03-29-2008, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ash somers
personally, i find grammar, in particular spelling fanatics, rather tedious
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Have you never striven for the highest possible level of achievement in anything you do? And wouldn't it make sense to strive in that direction in some field where you are already half-way proficient? And how would you like it if you opened The Age tomorrow to be greeted by a banner headline along the lines of " NERSES KARNT SPEL - LUSE CHOBS"? Would you feel you'd wasted your money?
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Originally Posted by Wildcard 
I view with distaste the excretions polluting this site, suffering when I read another by-product of the boredom of one with access to a computer and the internet. As I read I feel I am being defecated on, and cling to an idea that one day I may find solace in the words of one who takes pride in their work.
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03-29-2008, 10:00 PM
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its ok not 2 be abel 2 spel
sum peeple are dyslexic
liek its ok 2 be in a wheelchair too
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if ur in a wheelchair u prolly arent gonna be an olympic triple jumper
if u cant do math u wont never be an astrophysicist
if u dont have a drivers license u prolly wont win the grand prix
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if u cant spel u prolly never gonna be a riter
doesnt maek u a bad person
u mite be a reely nice person
u mite be reely clever
u mite be gonna get rich an have a happy lief
yanno?
but u wont be a riter
so if u dont really care bout spelling and gramer
if its all just a bit 2 much work 4 u 2 get it rite
an it seems real picky to worry bout it all the tiem
then mabey
just mabey
your on the rong fuckin forum
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03-29-2008, 10:06 PM
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NS: Nominated for...
Best. Post. 2008.
Love it!
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03-29-2008, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildcard 
I view with distaste the excretions polluting this site, suffering when I read another by-product of the boredom of one with access to a computer and the internet. As I read I feel I am being defecated on, and cling to an idea that one day I may find solace in the words of one who takes pride in their work.
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03-29-2008, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mi is happy
I'm kinda jacking the thread "Why all the obsession about grammar in the critique and advice section", but why are people on this forum so crazy about spelling and grammar mistakes? We are writers, and writers screw up. If you want to be so picky about that crap: be an editor and join editingforums.com or something like that. You aren't helping anyone by telling them that their work sucked because they didn't capitalize John.
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Some people only comment on the grammar when it detracts from the piece itself, and there are actually very few comments about capitalization. It's mostly about how the piece flows.
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03-29-2008, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ash somers
personally, i find grammar, in particular spelling fanatics, rather tedious
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Originally Posted by Ilasir Maroa
shouldn't that be "I find grammar fanatics rather tedious, and spelling fanatics even more so."?
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Originally Posted by ash somers
butt, why should it be, i prefer the way i wrote it
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And this is the whole point of the thread. Ilasir's correction makes sense out of some garbled jabberwocky whose meaning is unclear to anyone except its author. Ash appears to be saying, inter alia, that grammar is tedious? And that mis-spelling is enjoyable? Why would anyone not comment about the grammar of a piece written in this fashion?
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Originally Posted by Wildcard 
I view with distaste the excretions polluting this site, suffering when I read another by-product of the boredom of one with access to a computer and the internet. As I read I feel I am being defecated on, and cling to an idea that one day I may find solace in the words of one who takes pride in their work.
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03-29-2008, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by The Backward OX
And this is the whole point of the thread. Ilasir is correct.
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It's not that simple.
e.e.cummings was perfectly capable of using capital letters. He just didn't like them. James Joyce was perfectly capable of using speech marks. He simply chose not to. J.R.R.Tolkein knew the plural of "dwarf" is "dwarfs". He simply chose to write "dwarves".
More recently, Susannah Clark knows how to spell "choose" or "surprise" or "clue". She simply chose to write "chuse" and "surprize" and "clew" instead.
Creatively breaking the rules is fine.
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03-29-2008, 10:45 PM
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Back when I was terrible at crafting a story, I still received compliments about my ability to tell that awful story with clear diction, grammar and style. I was always thankful that I got those basics out of the way first.
Even so, I will always be a fan of the occasional fragment in conversational and creative writing. Powerful stuff, if used properly.
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03-29-2008, 10:49 PM
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I can't believe we're still on this shit. Truly. What was the point of this thread? Hasn't everything that needs to be said been said? For all the energy put into this masturbation session, we could all learn proper grammar and just shut the hell up.
xoxox daze
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03-29-2008, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by strangedaze
I can't believe we're still on this shit. Truly. What was the point of this thread? Hasn't everything that needs to be said been said? For all the energy put into this masturbation session, we could all learn proper grammar and just shut the hell up.
xoxox daze
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03-29-2008, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by The Backward OX
Have you never striven for the highest possible level of achievement in anything you do? And wouldn't it make sense to strive in that direction in some field where you are already half-way proficient? And how would you like it if you opened The Age tomorrow to be greeted by a banner headline along the lines of "NERSES KARNT SPEL - LUSE CHOBS"? Would you feel you'd wasted your money?
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yes, i do strive for excellence and professionalism
not only with writing, i have other areas of interests
that require precision, accuracy and attention to detail
i'm not saying sloppy grammar, spelling or syntax is acceptable
nor am i promoting my personal preference for writing processes
what i am saying is, in general terms, the position of being a nazi
is at times, nothing short of intimidating & also counterproductive
personally, i think there is a huge difference between being a nazi
and being diplomatically helpful, using tact, care & understanding
to correct and encourage proper spelling, syntax and grammar
at a level appropriate to the listeners level of comprehension
targeting for optimum outcomes of growth & understanding
it's a delicate balance for sure, some people prefer the book
of rules as their only guide and frame of reference, that's ok
but when they ever so gallantly project all this onto others
at the risk of being repetitive, i repeat, i find that tedious
simple
and excuse me ...
breaking rules, stretching boundaries, pushing status quo
requires nothing butt proficiency and comes well after
the stinking rule book has been completely mastered
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03-29-2008, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Backward OX
And this is the whole point of the thread. Ilasir's correction makes sense out of some garbled jabberwocky whose meaning is unclear to anyone except its author. Ash appears to be saying, inter alia, that grammar is tedious? And that mis-spelling is enjoyable? Why would anyone not comment about the grammar of a piece written in this fashion?
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no, that's not what i'm saying at all
i'm saying spelling nazis are tedious
Last edited by ash somers : 03-29-2008 at 11:26 PM.
Reason: typo
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03-29-2008, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by The Backward OX
And this is the whole point of the thread. Ilasir's correction makes sense out of some garbled jabberwocky whose meaning is unclear to anyone except its author. Ash appears to be saying, inter alia, that grammar is tedious? And that mis-spelling is enjoyable? Why would anyone not comment about the grammar of a piece written in this fashion?
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um why the fuck should they ?
i was offering my personal opinion
directed to the op's original posting
eye choose to write this way in forums
if it annoys you that much ignore me, easy
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03-29-2008, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Non Serviam
its ok not 2 be abel 2 spel
sum peeple are dyslexic
liek its ok 2 be in a wheelchair too
but
if ur in a wheelchair u prolly arent gonna be an olympic triple jumper
if u cant do math u wont never be an astrophysicist
if u dont have a drivers license u prolly wont win the grand prix
and
if u cant spel u prolly never gonna be a riter
doesnt maek u a bad person
u mite be a reely nice person
u mite be reely clever
u mite be gonna get rich an have a happy lief
yanno?
but u wont be a riter
so if u dont really care bout spelling and gramer
if its all just a bit 2 much work 4 u 2 get it rite
an it seems real picky to worry bout it all the tiem
then mabey
just mabey
your on the rong fuckin forum
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Does that mean my tone deafness and inability to read music will stand in the way of my dream of becoming a great conductor and composer?? 
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