BlueLucario

Geez Krim! Chill! What do you have against teenagers? Is this a rant?

I'm not angry, just hurt to see you rant about someone like myself, I'm 17. No wait 18.

Aleksander

my age is in between 12 and 15... and am still disappointed in the world with whole threads like this.

BlueLucario

People need to be patient with teens. They must be searching for talent like I was. They probably don't know how to take constructive criticism as advice. The way they take it, sends them the message that their writing is bad. They CARE what other people think and they just can't help themselves sometimes. This is why I would always post my stories online. Everytime someone would say my writing is excellent, it boost my confidence, and constructive criticism can do the same depending on how it's taken. Kids aren't afraid of plagarism, they are afraid of negative feedback. They just don't know better.

Aleksander

to be honest I enjoy negitive feedback, it's to the point. It tells the person what they did wrong and now they should change it. Yes positive is nice, but it really doesn't improve anything other than self moral. Which is good, but then again, teens aren't the only ones that want confidence boosters and help. So Krim, don't signal out teens, adults may be more mature, but that also gives them more reasons to doubt themselves.

Olly Buckle

Isn't it the case that diversity is best, if everyone is nice to you it's a pain, if everyone is down on you it's a pain. It's O.K. to be yourself, then all the other different people balance you out, it's the people who want every one to be like them that screw things up.

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Why not? It is magical, after all.

OddGodHMK

I genuinely believe Krim's reason for posting this was in thinking that all the older posters, who see younger authors asking their worth so often, would agree with him and have a good old laugh and collective rant together. I do believe, however, that it backfired.

If what I believe is correct, at any rate.

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laciemn

That is exactly something I would say! I'm still 16 in my world...I can't believe I'm an adult. The word gives me the creeps; it's cold and devoid of energy. I can't imagine what I'm going to feel like when I'm 30, I'll probably go into some weird denial of my age and try to comfort myself by rocking in my rocking chair. *shudder*

Anyway, yeah teenagers suck. Throw tomatoes at them.

Drezzal

lol =D>

BlueLucario

Why does it bother me that Krim is bashing himself? He's 15 according to his profile. Not to be rude. But can you please back up what you said.

No offense Krim, but I don't think you know what you are talking about. According to what I read, you think all teens are the same, therefore you are flaming yourself. You were like them once,so why don't you just be patient with them? Everything you say is obviously biased. So next time you want to talk about someone or some other issue, at least back up what your saying with facts. And please at least know what you are talking about.

I have no intention of a flame-war. I'm just being honest, If you want to flame me, fine. I won't fight back. I'll just ignore you and I won't be the one who maybe banned.

Krim

This has gotten rather long. Merry Christmas. I'll be back in a bit to read the rest of the yelling and whatnot. It pretty much seems like people are thinking I'm saying a lot of things I'm not, or talking about myself being perfect, which is ridiculous.

This thread is about people who wants to be writers but are not confident enough to post their work. I'll address posts that understand that concept when I can, and basically ignore things like Mike C. being all sweet 'n stuff.

I'm pretty certain I already mentioned that I would rather talk about writing as if it would teach me something by reading threads on a forum than actually working. All you really did was reword what I said about myself and make it all super-mean. And I am doing something, as I'm 50,000 words into my novel. Maybe if I don't get accepted by any publishers when I have it all polished and pretty, I'll self-publish and send you a copy and you can go over it with a red pen and return it to sender and then my fragile little teenage heart will be shattered and I will realize that I'm just a pompous teenager who has no skill whatsoever. 'tis probably true, but at least I'm not a hypocrite because I'm willing to put my snide bullshit and shit writing on the net for the sake of getting critiqued and bettering my work.

I'm not exactly sure why you are being so mean to a teenager and saying that he's going to amount to nothing in his writing life, Mike. That's just super-mean. I mean, I have some of my writing on this forum so you can go ahead and give me a nice long critique and we'll go over it and we'll smile and laugh at my redundant adjectives and stilted dialogue and my spelling 'to' as 'too' and then you'll PM me virtual slaps to my face for my insolence and tell me my mother never loved me and she smells of elderberries.

In the end, isn't that the meaning of Christmas, Mike?

Not especially. A lot of the older posters would rather come into the threads of innocent teenagers such as myself and then scream at them for wasting their time on forums instead of chalking up publishing credits like that as any actual bearing on the thread, while they would rather be belittling me while accusing me of belittling others---and since they're spending time belittling me, they themselves aren't getting publishing credits so by their own admission they are worthless.

Weird, huh?

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BlueLucario

At least tell us what you're trying to say. I understand the purpose of this thread. The way you said it made the readers thinkthat you are ranting and trying to bash other people. Because of your threat. Don't worry about other people, worry about yourself. The people who have been here longer than Mike C, seem to be very patient with people like them.

You were like them once were you?

Krim

I'm trying to say that it annoys me because it's pointless to want to be a writer, yet fear to go through the processes to become a better one. And was I ever scared to show anyone my work? No. Because I'm pretty sure that parents don't beat their kids for writing bad limmericks in third grade.

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meldy

In Mike C's defense I do think he knows what he is talking about.

My impression from the OP was that the person posting has something of an issue with people who were too scared to post and assumed the reasoning behind that fear was plagiarism.
Its not always that sweetie.
I also assumed the original poster was some older guy who had been locked away in his closet forever and developed a severe dislike for younger folks (although the Paolini reference in the sig threw me off )

I am supposed to be an adult (according the number of birthdays I have had anyway) and I was totally terrified to post what I have been working on. Not because I was worried someone might steal it (although the thought crossed my mind) but because its hard to judge how good what you are writing is when you are the only one seeing it. And the thought of thinking you are doing great only to have someone else peek at it and say it sucks worse than anything ever written before is scary.
I would imagine it would be even scarier for someone younger who has dreams of making a living via writing.
The OP actually fit me surprisingly well and I am not a teen but am old enough to be the parent of most of the posters on this board.
That doesnt mean there arent posters here who dont know more than me though. I'd wager most of you have considerably more experience.

I did break down and post what I had written......Mike C was one of my first replies.
It was short, not sweet and utterly heartbreaking.
And totally true.

And I survived and continue to write

Have I been published. No. Do I hope to. Maybe. Does it matter? I dont think it should to anyone here.
Just a thought.

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