For god's sake, young writers. - Page 2 - Writers Forum

Truth-Teller · 12-22-2007, 05:25 AM

Like your stories.

lin · 12-22-2007, 08:41 AM

There, see, TT likes your stories, Ox. And people he say he's just a no-talent slacker who only hangs here to nitpick his betters.

It must be Christmastime.

DavidGil · 12-22-2007, 09:18 AM

Funny response, Lin.

I was tempted to type:

Play nice, TT.

That was before I saw your response. Don't really know why he still frequents the place either. I would have thought he has no work to accomplish here anymore.

MEShammas · 12-22-2007, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Backward OX

Did you ever hear about not throwing stones if you live in a glass house?

I won't even bother with your last sentence. The syntax is absolutely ghastly.

Yes, Ox, I do not spend ten minutes on each post I make. Besides, I was replying to him since he was looking down on one group, not because I thought I was higher than others.

strangedaze · 12-22-2007, 12:05 PM

i can diggit, i just think its silly to critique comments for grammar.

Ilasir Maroa · 12-22-2007, 12:13 PM

Come back when you get your old avatar, NTO. The new one just isn't you. Doesn't seem like the sort to care about grammar.

Gabriel Gray · 12-22-2007, 04:37 PM

Oh, awesome. Glad to see this forum has some characters, if i hadn't read you was only 15, i would claim that others might be asking for others views purely because they are inexperienced, which everyone at one point is.

I admit in my most recent attempt at a novel, my ideas would seem clichéd at best, but give them a chance. I've seen some real potential on this forum , especially from the younger posters, try not to be a hate machine.

xx

Athlynne · 12-22-2007, 09:50 PM

I am an agoraphobe who has stood at the edge of the Grand Canyon, and it was terrifying.

But not quite so much as the idea that a novice writer should not ask questions of his/her betters. Isn't that one of the points of this forum?

*Angel · 12-23-2007, 01:30 AM

Everyone has a fear of rejection. and this blatant hostility towards them is really uncalled for and a bit hypocritical i think. your yelling and threatening people who are scarred to come out and display there work out of fear of someone yelling at them and telling them there no good. you wanna get them to stop being so hesitant, than try being supportive and they will have more confidence to take that full step.

Olly Buckle · 12-23-2007, 02:28 AM

I think *Angel is right, fear of rejection is not only the preserve of the young, in fact I am now old enough to know damn well he is right from my own experience. What getting older has allowed me to do is keep my fears to myself and suppress them when I am making decisions, a brave person is not one who does not feel fear, they are fools, but one who does not show their fear. These people are young and will learn to control themselves in time, for now we should be helping them past uncertainties which cripple them otherwise. I know it's annoying but that's people, they don't always want or need what you want to give.
As to the person who replied to Ox's post by saying he doesn't spend time on his posts, that is just arrogant, this is a public forum where the world is watching you, where else would you spend time getting it right? If I had whopped something up so hastily that I had misspelled the self same word I was criticising I would be going "Oops sorry" and retreating, not trying to justify it. We all make errors, that is part of the reason for coming here, correction and suggestion, don't take offence and knock the people using the site as intended just because you are the subject and they haven't phrased things diplomatically enough for you.

Cran · 12-23-2007, 05:36 AM

courage is acknowledging the fear, but doing it anyway ...

arrogance is being too stupid to know fear ...

JHB · 12-23-2007, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Krim

Why is it that so many of you are feeble little children to scared to show anyone your work, asking if you're too young? Did you only get an honorable mention for your Arbor Day essay in first grade? Did your third grade limerick get rejected in favor of Billy Hathorn's? Did you once show your mother your manuscript and she attacked you with a riding crop or something?

Why do so many of you need confirmation to be writers? For some young writers, posting a small excerpt of their work is like an agoraphobe that's afraid of heights standing at the edge of the Grand Canyon. "Am I too young?" "Is my hair too blonde?" "Do you think I should wear my orange shirt or my blue shirt today?" "Should I mention what supplies my protagonist is carrying on his journey?"

No. One. Is. Going. To. Steal. Your. Work. And. Publish. It. I've been plagiarized before, having some of my poetry used on another site, but I'm not fighting tooth and nail for every released word. Do you think anyone is honestly going to steal your unoriginal story about so-and-so young wizard going to fight the Dark Lord?

Grow some balls/ovaries. Do you think that you can publish your work and become famous if, uh, no one reads it because you're too scared? Do you expect your agent and the publisher and the masses to stare at the title, the blurb, the cover, and go "What a great, refreshing story. I give it a 9/10"?

How many of you keep going "Oh, I'm going to write one more draft so I'm not embarassed when they critique it and they have nothing to find", kind of defeating the point of critiquing in the first place.

If I meet one more of you sniveling "Am I good enough" teenagers I'm going to deck you. I promise. I suffered through scanning the Fantasy NaNoWriMo boards and I'm pretty sure I've gone insane. Every thread there is "Is this a good idea?" "Yeah, pretty good." "You sure? What do you mean by pretty good?" "I mean, it really depends on what you do with it." "What do you think I should do with it?" "I...don't..." "TELL ME."

Some guy asked me if his magical ice ring could have fire magic in it to resist burning, though the makers were Ice Elementals. If you don't see the problem with him asking me that, die.

Just one question: What's all this to you?

blackrose · 12-23-2007, 12:39 PM

Some younger kids just need a boost of confidence. My sister, who's twelve, enjoys to write....but it is atrocious. She cannot spell, she cannot word sentences, she skips from one thing to the next, and she leaves out the major things (like not telling you who in the world a new character is...she has it in her head, she just doesn't write it down).
When she asks me, "Andrea, what do you think of this? Should I do this? How should I word this?" do I tell her she sucks and she should never write again? No, I help her, point out what is good, and try to explain what the term "discription" means and how to use it in writing. If she asks me, "Does this sound like a good idea?" I don't call her an idiot and just say, "Write it down!" I try to boost her confidence.

Everybody needs to start somewhere. If they start with no confidence them help them gain it - don't take them down even more. Sure, it can get tiring answering the same questions over and over again, but that is where patience comes in.

Aleksander · 12-24-2007, 10:13 AM

This is ridiculous, how could you possibly be so absent minded that we are scared as young adults to show the world our work? Why do you think? As a teenager I know what level of society we are standing at. We aren't scared, simply tired of even trying. Hence sites out there for yougn adults and even adults, because there we aren't shunned for our ideas on the world and figures against already disclosed opinions.

Why you ask? Because every feeble attempt to change this world, not in a major sense, but through our words we are rejected because our minds are so called "unmatured" Which is a lie. I have posted a story here before back when I just found this place, I am yet to get a comment on that story. I didn't even need an age barrier, just a new person barrier.

Trust me we aren't scrared, simply annoyed by those around us that believe we are scared. We aren't looking to be reconizedm, just helped. Public schooling levels are going down so the only we will learn is through actions and guidence of others, but those others are people like you who believe that we are just "to scared" to do anything.

Do not write before you know the facts of a young adult.

Pete_C · 12-24-2007, 10:21 AM

Yeah yeah yeah! Krim's got big balls, and if you disagree he'll give you a smack in the chops! Whoopaloo.

Now, can someone answer the question; can a magical ice ring have fire magic in it to resist burning?