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12-15-2007, 09:39 PM
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Dividers in chapters,or not?
Should I be using dividers to show a change of time and/or place?
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^^Something like this^^
I have seen some books with lines and such; others just start a new paragraph.
Thanks, Digitalfiction/Ernie
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12-15-2007, 11:04 PM
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Here's how I do it.
I indent the first line of a paragraph, and keep them tight together. When I want a break inside the chapter, I leave a line, and don't indent the first line of the paragraph in the new section.
I'll try to give an example.
Paragraph 1 - b;ah blah blah
.........Paragraph 2 - still blah blah
Paragraph 3 - new blah blah blah
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12-16-2007, 06:34 AM
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Personally, I leave a blank line, centre a single asterisk on the next line, leave another blank and then begin the new scene.
ie.
Event #1 etc. etc. etc.
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Event #2 etc. etc. etc.
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12-16-2007, 07:18 AM
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A blank line tends to denote a change of time or place, but with the same action, or flow, continuing. A row of asterisks tends to denote a stronger change, such as a switch of viewpoint character.
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12-16-2007, 07:39 AM
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are you supposed to include such things to indicate changes in your manuscript?
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12-16-2007, 09:41 AM
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In your manuscript, denote a blank line with the hash key:
Blah blah blah.
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Meanwhile, blah blah blah.
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12-17-2007, 08:09 AM
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Off Topic:
I would have thought if you were switching a viewpoint character you'd be starting a new chapter.
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12-18-2007, 04:00 AM
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I would have thought if you were switching a viewpoint character you'd be starting a new chapter.
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Usually, but not always.
I believe The Stand changes POV within a single chapter a few times.
Why do I remember this stuff?
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12-18-2007, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ClancyBoy
Usually, but not always.
I believe The Stand changes POV within a single chapter a few times.
Why do I remember this stuff?
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Terry Pratchett does it too, I just looked. (Mind you, TP doesn't use chapters at all in a lot of his stuff.)
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12-18-2007, 11:04 PM
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If you are publishing yourself or online then you might want to put in the breaks using
# three or four times centered on the page. You can really use anything you want.
If you are submitting a manuscript for publication or a book, then the publish will put those symbols in for you. Some publishers want only an extra line, others may want one #. The methods are endless but, in the case of publishers, they will want you to keep it as simple as possible so they have less to find and remove to put their own stuff in.
Hope this helps.
JL Stratton
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12-26-2007, 11:26 PM
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Thanks all
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12-27-2007, 01:32 AM
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I tend to prefer a space with a '-' centered in the middle.
For example:
Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text
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Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text Text
But that's just me.
Look through some of your favorite books and see what they do.
Racheal
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12-27-2007, 01:33 AM
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Just use an extra return, leaving a blank line. Don't start throwing stars and garters around, it looks tacky and amateurish.
Don't use pound signs # either. This is a certain kind of formatting, not something you want to print out and submit.
Keep these things simple. What does a line of symbols say that a blank space doesn't say?
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12-27-2007, 03:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lin
Just use an extra return, leaving a blank line. Don't start throwing stars and garters around, it looks tacky and amateurish.
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12-27-2007, 10:12 AM
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Well, I've heard that a * or three is used in publishing to equal a space, so when I write one of those in my manuscript I don't expect it to appear in the printed book but without them there is no space at all. I'm not too sure about my source on this, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
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