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Old 12-11-2007, 10:37 AM   #16
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How can you make a mistake if you have eternity to make up for it and forget about it? I'm sure it sounds cool in your mind to have a "Super cool uber l33t character who will pwn everyone," but it makes for terrible story telling.
Don't limit yourself to thinking that death is the only risk one can take. People who can't die can still have much to lose. Besides, a good story teller can turn anything into a good read.
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:48 AM   #17
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Don't limit yourself to thinking that death is the only risk one can take. People who can't die can still have much to lose. Besides, a good story teller can turn anything into a good read.
And all that an immortal can lose has been done by Anne Rice already. Immortals are now boring.
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:54 AM   #18
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I've always thought that a character who is completely invulnerable would be a fun thing to write, given he/she would be blind and perpetually suffocating/hungry, depending on how you wrote it...
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:09 AM   #19
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And all that an immortal can lose has been done by Anne Rice already. Immortals are now boring.
Everything has been done before. The trick is to make it your own and give it a new twist. Maybe the focus of the story is on an immortal who's literally been in a cave for the last century and has just broken out of a depression caused by seeing his last descendant die and now he has to adjust to life in a world completely different from the one he once knew.
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That sounds a bit like interview with a vampire. Though being immortal, I imagine he'd be in a singular position to enjoy the improvements in sanitation over the last few centuries...
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:24 AM   #21
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Everything has been done before.
No, it hasn't.
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Like my invulnerability thing for example.
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No, it hasn't.
Has too.
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Has too.
This is a cop out for unimaginitive writers. Nothing more.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:53 AM   #25
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This is a cop out for unimaginitive writers. Nothing more.
Not so. I just think that most everything has been done in one form or another. This is taken from an extreme perspective though that would color anything influenced by another work as 'unimaginitive.'

When I say 'give it a new twist,' I don't mean re-write a story and change the names of characters and places and at the end the main character's naighbor dies instead of his wife. I just mean that virtually everything we come up with, no matter how original it seems, is influenced by something else.

It's hard to explain what I mean, but I didn't mean it to come out as cynnical as it sounded.
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How can you make a mistake if you have eternity to make up for it and forget about it? I'm sure it sounds cool in your mind to have a "Super cool uber l33t character who will pwn everyone," but it makes for terrible story telling.
Depends.

If they're sooper kewl l33t immortal Anne Rice style vampires, then yes that's dumb. What if immortality came with a terrible price though? What if immortality, in a word, sucked.
What if something along the lines of Huxley's After Many a Summer Dies the Swan, or Wilde's Picture of Dorian Gray happened? That could be interesting.

There are so many reasons that people weren't meant to live forever. You could really go any direction with that. Does eternal life guarantee eternal youth? Probably not. Imagine how worn-out and gnarly a human body would look after 900 years. I mean, just the wear and tear on the joints alone...

Also insanity is an absolute given. Insanity on a level never before witnessed.
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I've always thought that a character who is completely invulnerable would be a fun thing to write, given he/she would be blind and perpetually suffocating/hungry, depending on how you wrote it...


My bad. He's nigh invulnerable.

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It's hard to explain what I mean, but I didn't mean it to come out as cynnical as it sounded.
It sounded like you were using it as an excuse.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:29 PM   #28
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My bad. He's nigh invulnerable.



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It sounded like you were using it as an excuse.
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Mr Sci Fi- can you make up for all mistakes? i don't think so
and i think it is obvious that i am saying that the character will not be a "super cool uber character who pwns everyone"
like i said, being immortal doesn't make you super cool and able to pwn everyone.
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Depends.

If they're sooper kewl l33t immortal Anne Rice style vampires, then yes that's dumb. What if immortality came with a terrible price though? What if immortality, in a word, sucked.
Or maybe, for once, it didn't suck. Vampires or not, I find it hard to think of any immortals in litterateur that really enjoyed their long life. Some might handle it better then others but I've yet to read someone say: "It sure feels great to live forever and I can always get new loved ones as the old ones die". I'm sure there are examples of this as well but I bet they're fewer then the "Oh, the immense angst of immorality" or at least "Oh, the angst of the price I must pay to stay alive".
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