I'm not off topic am I? - Page 3 - Writers Forum

g-paw · 09-13-2007, 04:48 PM

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Have you done that? Have you forecast sales in any way? And have you shown the forecast to your 'friend'?

No, I have not written a business plan. We have discussed the target audience, it will be very tightly niched. No plan, so no forecast.

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How exactly do you propose you earn your cut?

My cut will arrive as a gift, as deemed appropriate by the author. However, if we can, I would like to stay focused on my objectives.

With regards to the file format, I have the final draft in a doc file. And there is a pdf version of that doc. I generated an html file from the pdf, and we are working through that format right now. The html is compiled daily with our latest edits. Then we sit together each day and read over the compiled e-book. I take notes, and later go back to my hole where I edit the html files, getting them ready to recompile for the next day. When this editing is completed, I plan to move all of the html back to a clean doc file, removing the html markup along the way. Then the final pdf can be generated. Piece of cake.

The Amazon info is great! You should have seen her face light up when I told her. I will be looking at that option closely.

Non Serviam · 09-13-2007, 04:58 PM

Good Lord, that's complex.

But you're a former webmaster; I presume you know what you're doing.

The big deal I had with Lulu, and I presume CreateSpace will be the same, was to embed the fonts into the .pdf. OpenOffice does that perfectly every time with zero hassle, I discovered--it turns your Word doc into a .pdf with one click.

CreateSpace looks better than Lulu because of the lower cost per book, the Amazon listing and the free ISBN number.

I think you'll find the web is your most productive marketing tool. Bookshops don't like self-publishers for a variety of reasons (some very good reasons, and some purely selfish).

Expect sales of up to about five hundred copies, with sufficient marketing push. (I seem to remember someone else from this site managing 300 sales from a piece of fiction on Lulu.)

Mike C · 09-13-2007, 06:09 PM

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With regards to the file format...

Jesus, isn't that over complicated? word doc to pdf to html all in order to convert it back to a word doc? Why not just collaborate on the .doc until you need another format?

valeca · 09-13-2007, 07:39 PM

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(I seem to remember someone else from this site managing 300 sales from a piece of fiction on Lulu.)

Moi.

313 to be exact. 2 to family/friends, 311 to god knows who.

But that was with zero marketing, too, so it might have been higher if I'd actually promoted it.

wmd · 09-13-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by g-paw

Since Lulu has been mentioned in this thread, I can assume the answer is yes. Lulu is one option that has already been explored. I have not personally looked at the fine print yet, but I have at least visited the site. There is a little voice in my head that screams, "Is Lulu the only option, the best option?"

Lulu is not the only option, but from my research I believe it is one of the best. I just heard about the amazon thing in this thread and I am going to check that out...(free isbn and lower pricing.. hmmm)

I use lulu.com to publish my journal of christian thinking (shameless plug.. see link) and I am happy with the service and the quality of the product.

You said in a post after this quote that you have "no plan and therefore no forcast". BAD IDEA.

You should have a plan for any money making venture. Even if you do not consider it a business it is still a business. You may not be able to get all the different figures from this forum, but it is very important to research and formulate a business plan.

Non Serviam · 09-14-2007, 07:03 AM

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Moi.

313 to be exact. 2 to family/friends, 311 to god knows who.

But that was with zero marketing, too, so it might have been higher if I'd actually promoted it.

Could you remind me of the details, Valeca?

I seem to remember that was at non-profit prices--some of the sales could well be attributable to people who wanted to see the book quality?

g-paw · 09-14-2007, 10:52 AM

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BAD IDEA

I agree. This entire adventure could turn out to have been a bad idea

Or, it could be anywhere from mildly to wildly satisfying. An aside, I am actually working on a business plan for a venture of my own. I spend time in the wee hours on that project.

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isn't that over complicated? word doc to pdf to html all in order to convert it back to a word doc? Why not just collaborate on the .doc until you need another format?

Nah, it just sounds that way. The reason we aren't working in the word doc is because I need to recompile the daily changes, hence the need to work in the html doc. It WOULD be a huge chore to have to start each days work with the word doc.

The good news in all of this.. the next time I will be more prepared.

wmd · 09-14-2007, 09:07 PM

I think I see what you are doing...

You are willing to work on a plan for you own venture, but not your friends... so if your friends fails you can blame it on poor planning rather than poor writing?

I guess that is better than being honest

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