Writers Forum - WritingForums.com Home Rules FAQ Members Groups Calendar Gallery Search
» Sign Up «

Welcome to Writing Forums, one of the fastest growing writing communties on the web.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and photo galleries. By joining our free community you will be able to talk with other writers, get feedback on your work to improve your writing skills, discuss ideas, share tips & tricks, network and make friends!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support.
  Search Forums
Lit.Org - Bootcamp for writers. Post your work and other writers review it, it's that easy.

Advanced Search



Go Back   Writers Forum - WritingForums.com > Writing > Tips & Advice
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Tips & Advice Share your tips, tricks and advice.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-02-2007, 05:54 PM   #1
Prolific Writer
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MA, USA
Gender: Female
Posts: 260
Joelle is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Joelle
in an average novel..

..about how many words are there?
This has probably already been answered somewhere but I did a few quick searches and found nothing. I'm on about 31,000 on the novel I'm currently writing and I'd like to have a final number in mind now for pacing purposes.
Thanks in advance.
__________________

When he was with her, the music never stopped.

* * * * *
joelle-writing
Joelle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 06:04 PM   #2
Prolific Writer
 
Joe Moore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Florida
Gender: Male
Posts: 222
Joe Moore is on a distinguished road
Here's a general rule of thumb on word count:

Epic: A work of 200,000 words or more.
Novel: A work of 60,000 words or more.
Novella: A work of at least 17,500 words but under 60,000 words.
Novelette: A work of at least 7,500 words but under 17,500 words.
Short story: A work of at least 2,000 words but under 7,500 words.
Flash fiction: A work of less than 2,000 words.
__________________


Website | Blog
Joe Moore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 06:10 PM   #3
Prolific Writer
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MA, USA
Gender: Female
Posts: 260
Joelle is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Joelle
ooh thank you very much
__________________

When he was with her, the music never stopped.

* * * * *
joelle-writing
Joelle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 06:57 PM   #4
Best Seller
 
dwellerofthedeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Surely not MN
Gender: Male
Posts: 650
dwellerofthedeep is on a distinguished road
100,000 words is the most marketable number for a 1st novel.
__________________
"It's Amazing..."
dwellerofthedeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 07:12 PM   #5
Profound Writer
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,438
HarryG is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwellerofthedeep View Post
100,000 words is the most marketable number for a 1st novel.
I agree, but please remember that it depends on the kind of novel you are writing. 100,000 words is indeed the average, but 200,000 words may be equally appropriate. Don’t be cowed by numbers, write it to the end, and good luck.
HarryG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 08:12 PM   #6
Wordsmith
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Back 'home' on Tinian!
Gender: Female
Posts: 11,445
mammamaia is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to mammamaia
also keep in mind the word count preferred by publishers of the kind of novel you're writing... you can check out some submission guidelines and get a good idea of what a marketable average is for your work that way...
__________________
For 100% free writing help/mentoring:
www.saysmom.com

"You must BE the change you wish to see in the world." Gandhi
mammamaia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 08:58 PM   #7
lin
Wordsmith
 
lin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: On islands
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,988
lin is on a distinguished road
I just sort of shoot for 100,000 words. I wouldn't want to be submitting a first novel twice that length unless it was really incredible and fit a niche.
lin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 09:25 PM   #8
Ink Slinger
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fernando Poo
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,433
ClancyBoy is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to ClancyBoy
Or you could write as many words as the story requires, no more, no less. Our job is to write a good story that people want to read. It's the publisher's job to figure out how market it.
__________________
"Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons wait for you down there. Little pets they are, little little little pets. Cute little things, they say. Don't you believe it. No man ever saw them and walked away alive. You won't either. That's the final dash, flash. That's the utter clobber, cobber." --Cordwainer Smith, Norstrillia.
ClancyBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2007, 01:11 AM   #9
Wordsmith
 
Mike C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South-east UK
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,843
Mike C is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Mike C
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClancyBoy View Post
Or you could write as many words as the story requires, no more, no less. Our job is to write a good story that people want to read. It's the publisher's job to figure out how market it.
You keep saying dumb stuff, Nancy. Your job is to write a good story that people want to read that is marketable. If it's not, the publisher will go to the next guy in the line. You have to produce a saleable product.
Mike C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2007, 01:59 AM   #10
Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 179
Hobbes is on a distinguished road
In comparison, The Great Gatsby is about 82,000 words long, IIRC.
Hobbes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2007, 02:02 AM   #11
Moderator
 
Shawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Indiana
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,226
Shawn is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to Shawn
Since we all write The Great Gatsby daily, ILTNMMAMOTCHYCFAPMSFTJ.
__________________
The most frightening part of leaving a parent's home, to me, is not knowing where one's own home is.
Shawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2007, 02:54 AM   #12
Ink Slinger
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fernando Poo
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,433
ClancyBoy is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to ClancyBoy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike C View Post
You keep saying dumb stuff, Nancy. Your job is to write a good story that people want to read that is marketable. If it's not, the publisher will go to the next guy in the line. You have to produce a saleable product.
If it's a book people want to read, the only reason it wouldn't be marketable is if the publisher is too dense or too lazy to figure out how to market it properly.

Yes yes, I know I might not make money with that attitude. I already have a job though, so I could give a shit. I'm here to make art.
__________________
"Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons wait for you down there. Little pets they are, little little little pets. Cute little things, they say. Don't you believe it. No man ever saw them and walked away alive. You won't either. That's the final dash, flash. That's the utter clobber, cobber." --Cordwainer Smith, Norstrillia.
ClancyBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2007, 03:43 AM   #13
lin
Wordsmith
 
lin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: On islands
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,988
lin is on a distinguished road
I wrote a GOOD Gatsby, but not a GREAT Gatsby.
lin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2007, 06:12 AM   #14
Best Seller
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 654
Krim is on a distinguished road
90,000-120,000. Less for young adult fiction. That goes down as much as around 60,000, some less than that.
__________________
"A terrible energy and strength began to grow in him. It grabbed his emotions and forged them into a solid bar of anger with one word stamped on it: revenge." - Eragon by Christopher Paolini, an international bestseller
Krim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2007, 07:49 AM   #15
Ink Slinger
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fernando Poo
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,433
ClancyBoy is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to ClancyBoy
Quote:
Originally Posted by lin View Post
I wrote a GOOD Gatsby, but not a GREAT Gatsby.
Now just what the hell kind of an attitude is that?
__________________
"Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons wait for you down there. Little pets they are, little little little pets. Cute little things, they say. Don't you believe it. No man ever saw them and walked away alive. You won't either. That's the final dash, flash. That's the utter clobber, cobber." --Cordwainer Smith, Norstrillia.
ClancyBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:42 AM.
Powered by vBulletin, Copyright ©2000-2007, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0


 
You are NOT Logged In.
User Name:

Password



Newsletter

Subscribe to Majestic
the official newsletter of Writing Forums and lit.org
Email:


Related Links

Link to Us:
Writing Forums - Discussions for Writers