Truth-Teller

Nah, just passive.

And literature.

lin

Maybe there should a seperate section for threads in which people arbitrarily change the meanings of the terms being discussed.

It could be called something like Writing To Impress, Not Communicate

Truth-Teller

Maybe we should agree to disagree.

And realize we are entitled to our own opinions.

Truth-Teller

Old man, seriously, if you want to pick a fight that bad, fine, whatever; let's do this:

Go back on your respirator. The lack of oxygen is killing your braincells and causing stiff joint pains.

Azmakna

truth-teller, why are you always so angry? you know very little about writing at all. it comes across loud and clear to those of us who have invested time and effort into improving. you are a level 1 critiquer, that is to say you pick obvious things without considering the context (which incidently is probably 5 levels above you)

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Truth-Teller

Angry?

I'm having the time of my life! You guys are hilarious!

Azmakna

and you don't think there is a collective chuckle at your expense? you just don't know do you?! lol
won't bother you anymore, bye

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Truth-Teller

Hasta luego.

lin

What get me about him is he seems to forget what he posts as soon as he posts it. He said he defined the term under discussion in his own way, then got pissed off at mention of it.

In another post he gave (highly incorrect) examples of passive voice, then denied they were his.

Maybe telling the truth is simply a matter of developing alzheimers.

Azmakna

ego without substance (ugly)

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Krim

Why would you offer your own opinion on what passive means when he obviously means the conventional definition of passive voice? If he wanted some examples of vapid prose he would've asked for them, Truth-Teller. Your stance would be somewhat understandable if he had merely said 'active or passive', because active means stronger, more involved. But he said:

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Shawn

In my understanding of active and passive voice, active means to be decisive, speaking as if your opinion is truth. Or perhaps that's just in academic writing... meh.

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Azmakna

we have to start with generalities, otherwise everyone gets confused and gives up. one step at a time. thanks for clarifying that Krim

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dwspig2

Azmakna, you asked what subjunctive and interrogative are. I shall attempt to explain.

The subjunctive mood of a verb expresses something that is unreal, unlikely, hypothetical. I find that examples always can illuminate the subjunctive better than a textbook definition.

Example without subjunctive:
George Bush is the President, and much corruption exists in the government.

Example with subjunctive:
If I were the President, I would try to eliminate corruption in the government.

Notice that in the first example, an example of an indicative statement, the verb remains simple--is and exists. In the second example, when I'm stating a hypothetical situation, the verb becomes were and would. I'm not the President, but if I were, this is how things would be different. Oftentimes the "be" verb is erroneously rendered as was in the subjunctive: If I was the President, I would try....This is wrong, and it should be avoided.

The interrogative mood is not accepted in all academic circles. It's simply another classification of an indicative verb that is being used in an intterogative statement.

Example without interrogative:
You bought the watermelon?

Example with interrogative:
You bought the watermelon?

No real difference exists in the written form, but in the spoken form the intonation of the voice indicates that the interrogative mood is being used. Some scholars see this further delination of verbs as unnecessary and label it as nothing more than esoterica.

Voodoo

Thank you, that was most helpful.