Shawn

Only you, Kane. Only you, love. But I really should thank you and Nytelyfe for kicking some sense into me. If you didn't notice, I didn't get on for six days.

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killned3

I could never understand homosexuality... but I once had a good friend who was gay. He told me a lot about what it was like, and I was able to understand everything despite the fact that I'm straight. I never will be able to fully grasp it, though... that's one thing in life not all of us can experience.

But sure, Kane, I'll write you up a piece. I'll do it right now. In the meantime, you can read the other piece I submitted to the Fiction forum, though by no means does that one require adult understanding. I'd appreciate your input, though. How would you like me to show you the piece you'd like for me to write?

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Shawn

You are worse than senseless! You do not understand homosexuality, because if you did, you would be a homosexual yourself! Don't you see? A good friend explaining things would not give you a universal understanding of a topic. I could drone on and on for hours and hours and days and months and years, but it would never amount to the magnitude of what I feel for someone close to me. You cannot understand things you have not seen.

I would like to draw on Julius Shakespeare by Bill Shakespeare. Now, the men of Rome did not know the great consul Pompey and so they rejoiced when Caesar was to take the crown. How could they know that Caesar was so great when they had not known Pompey? Pompey brought home captives and treasures and shared them with the people. Caesar brought nothing. So why was Caesar so great? Even Brutus, who had known Pompey, knew that Caesar should not take the crown.

A complicated metaphor, but you might relate. You do not know adulthood, because you have not lived it. How could you know about adulthood when you have nothing to compare it against?

I suggest you do not take the crown, it allows for a very lonely adolescence.

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cbrmale

You're fifteen, you're as old as the youngest of my two children, and she is mature for her age. Indeed she likes to write, and her short fantasy pieces are quite good.

I think at your age and my daughter's age, you need to concentrate on what you can do. For example, you cannot write a novel-length work on any genre, because you do not know of love, hate, anguish, desperation and so on. As Kane mentioned, the works that drag readers in are character-driven, but you do not have the experience of life to develop a cast of interesting characters. But you can still write, and as you write your technique will develop and be refined. And as you gain life experience over the next ten years and longer, your works will become fuller and more rounded as a result.

killned3

I have written several novel-length works, actually. My greatest as of yet is 400 pages long.

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Shawn

"But is it any good" is the question.

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killned3

I'm at no liberty to say for myself. That's up to others to decide.

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Umogrim

I ask, how are you people to know that we have not felt love, anguish, hate and all the feelings? Do you know our lives? I sure as hell do know i can feel all that, my mother was detected lung cancer, she saved herself just in time by having an operation and has a pretty good chance of dying anyway in the next few years, now because im young i dont have the RIGHT to feel sad? Ignorant. My father, he lives in his car, he has no work, i see him twice a week, always angry, always down, cant i feel angry myself? Cant i feel sad? Cant i freaking not know what happyness and love is?! I have to take care of my sister alot too, im like a second parent to her so if you think you can predict our life and say we dont know about something, you know even less.

Now, i will take my leave, and killned3 i suggest you do the same, some people will never understand, never let something past their thick skull even if its right.

Shawn

This isn't about tragedy, it is about dealing with other people's feelings. I don't know how you feel and nobody knows how I feel... nobody knows how Kane feels. You don't know how an adult feels, just because you've been in more scraps than others doesn't mean you are entitled to higher ground because there are people that are even worse off than you.

You are, however, entitled to feel those things, but not to claim that you feel anything anybody else feels. We're all different and feel things differently.

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Umogrim

Last thing, that means that nobody else in this forum is either, someone claimed that we dont know what to feel pain and anguish is, synical? You can't claim us to not know how someone would feel in a certain situation and then say the opposite of us, because you don't know if we have or not experienced them. True, with age comes experience, but experience comes more from doing something than from age, you don't have to be <insert age> do live some events.

And now, farewell.

Ebony Fate

II wouldn't worry about it, personally i don't think age has much to do with it.
I see writing as more of an emotional than an intellectual thing, it comes from the heart.
Although i can understand when people say younger writers may not fully understand certain issues, I think it depends more on the individual- if a writer is sensitive and emotional and cares about people, there's no limit to what they can emotionally and intellectually understand- if a character in a writers work suffers some loss, and the writer cries, that means they can understand and feel their pain- sometimes an issue may not be fully emotionally understood by younger writers, but if the spark of human compassion is there, it will show in their work If you care about the issues you are writing about, it will come from your heart, and, if your work comes from your heart, it cant go wrong

Shawn

Some and aye, that is the rub. You have never worked for forty hours for a meager paycheck and then wondered how you were going to make it through the week. Your rant showed your great immaturity when approaching the emotional side of things. Read my signature. We don't all get lemonade, but it all comes out the same in the end. And in ways, yes, you haven't felt pain, because you haven't lived long enough to know the full extent of the way things go. I don't claim to, I'm certainly not old enough to tell, but I know that there are things so deep that they burn the mind and scar the soul. You're not in an insane asylum (as far as I know) so I will assume you have not experienced that.

Make lemonade, and don't whine on the way... that's when you turn out like my parents.

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Ebony Fate

sorry Shawn- missunderstood post

Shawn

I wasn't talking to you. But now I know your maturity level because instead of stating your opinion, you continued on into about how you work at a funeral home.

Writing comes from emotions, good writing comes from experience. There's a difference.

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