Umogrim

Lets start by what is an adult perspective? There is a vast amount of adult bodied people with the maturity of a 5 year old.

Now, when you have people comment on your work as successfully writen, without knowing your age, then you know that you can write as one. I have had people of my age say that what i write is too gloomy, or too far from their childish reality that they don't like it, but other 40 year olds like it because it reflects alot of things they would do, or situations that happen to them, etc.

Anyway, im going too out of topic, my advice as in last post: Don't let yourself be influenced by people who simply want to drag you down, keep on writting, no matter you age.

Dookie

It is true to say that differently aged writers can and will write different pieces. But that's a good thing. To look back at a piece of work you do when you are 13, when you reach even just 15, is a shock. You'll have developed in writing so much in such a short space of time that it is unbelievable. But, as a 13 year old you have qualities that older writers lack. For example if you were to write about a 13 year old at high school, the writing might not be up to par but it would sure be better than a 30 year old writing about a 13 year old. As someone already said, write what you know, it's what you're good at.

killned3

Kane, I said I was up to par with adult writing, not complete adult life understanding. I see a difference.

And personally, I think you have a bit of a problem with me. I don't see why. You'd think by now you'd have grown up. From what I've seen of your posts, though, at least between you and me, I sometimes get the feeling you have yet to reach that step.

I'm getting very tired of arguing with you, and so therefore I declare a truce. Truce?

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Kane

Kilned, just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I need to grow up. I guess that's just another thing you'll learn as you get older. People disagree, and I'm not attacking you, I'm just challenging some of what you're saying. Learn to live with it.

We aren't at war, so we don't need to declare a truce. If you say something I disagree with, I will say something about it. This is a discussion forum, after all.

Precisely my point.

Shawn

Something I was painfully forced to learn. (No thanks to Nytelyfe and a very insistent Kane ) I will still be as insistent and obnoxious, however.

And adult perspective is something gained with age. Attempting to mature too fast will only detriment the "maturity" process. Two parts hormonal, one part mental, and three parts student loans... one less arm and leg.

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killned3

I don't think you have reason to challenge everything I say.

I'm a very peaceful person. I don't like challenging everything I see. I also don't like it when people constantly try to challenge my beliefs and opinions. By my own preferences, I tried to stop this, but you refused, so I know I did all I could to break it up.

One thing I'd just like you to think about: Age doesn't always matter. At least not in this context. Whether you agree with me or not in the long run, it doesn't matter. But think a little more about it.

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Shawn

But age does matter. How will someone know what it feels like to have arthritis if they've never had it? How about what if feels like to forget things? To be in a battle situation? To bury their family? To worry about something greater than if people like you or not? Age means everything, because with age comes experience, and with experience comes bitterness... and bitterness is what makes good writing.

I kind of equate this to the "Academic versus Impressionist" painting revolution.

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killned3

I personally believe I can understand all those aforementioned things and more. Believe me or not, I don't care. It's the truth. I also believe that many others my age can. Understanding is not beyond age. Anything is quite possible.

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Kane

You believe you can understand, but you're wrong. You've never been an adult. You've never had to daily face life as an adult. However, just like most people you're age, you think you know everything. You can't grasp the concept that people who have already been through it might have a different outlook than you. The original poster already has an advantage over you, because he/she realizes this.

What would be the point of continuing to grow and mature if you had already achieved adult understanding as a child? Why do you believe you can think like an adult when your brain hasn't even stopped growing? Knowledge, wisdom and understanding are things that are built upon, layer by layer. You're still forming your base.... don't be foolish enough to think you know what comes afterward first hand, because you don't.

killned3

Do you think you're my father? Do you think you know for a second who I am, and what I'm capable of understanding?

I don't understand everything about being an adult. Not everything. But I can understand a vast percentage of it. That works for me. Since you don't know me, you're at fault telling me what I know and what I don't.

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Shawn

You can understand them, but you cannot feel them.

I could write:

"Joe was late on his mortgage payment. Shit, how was he going to make it now."

It shows the general complication: Joe hasn't made his mortgage payment and will have to use his credit, but it doesn't convey the certain desperation Joe must be feeling at having another cannonball thrown his way.

To say you understand the things that an adult (I'm saying over thirty five or so) has to go through that's just a bit immature.

Even a year ahead of you. You can't possibly understand how much changed for me over this past year. I grew a lot, I'm much more comfortable with myself and my body and I've made a lot of new friends. So much has changed: where I was in the closet last year and never coming out, to this year where I am completely comfortable with who I am and the realization that I was extremely immature the year before. If that happens in one year, think of what happens when it compounds over three decades.

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killned3

I've gone through several amazing development stages; not physically, necessarily, but mentally and psychologically. I learn something new every day.

I feel like I could write about any emotion. It comes naturally to me. Whether or not I've experienced the emotion in real life, it doesn't matter. In my own way, I can make myself experience it. I'm very glad I can do that, because otherwise I don't think I'd be able to write like I can today.

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Shawn

I don't think you get it. I'll try to use my own experiences so there isn't much of an age gap. You can't, can't, can't possibly feel what I felt when I first kissed my boyfriend. My knees shook, but I was perfectly still. Warmth sank in through my pores, and I blushed, but I was cold all over. I felt like I'd died and been born in the same instance and I was never the same afterwards. I can't imagine what it would be like to be alone now, because something just clicked. And even though he's a complete dick and asshole wrapped into one, I still love him, because he's the only one who ever made me feel that way.

You can't understand, and don't pretend that you ever felt that, because if you had, what did I feel? Some common place thing?

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Kane

Then why don't you write up a little piece for us? Make it a first person of a man whose wife and child have just died. Make us really feel what he feels. Don't just copy something from a movie you once saw, or a book you once read. What did that man's wife and child mean to him? What will he do now? You do a good job at that, and I'll believe that unlike all the other teens of the past century, you have somehow actually managed to know that which you have never experienced.

Kane

Aww, see what you've done? You've made Shawn go all gay on us again. lol