CZ

Because all governments everywhere are clearly in the right and will never, EVER do anything with the information they gathered to hurt innocent people.

Think of how many more Jews might have been murdered in the Holocaust had the Nazis been able to use CCTV and oyster cards to track movement of Jews or potential Jews.

Maybe modern day Iran should be fitted with CCTV all over the place like London is. Then they can catch and punish women who go out without proper escorts or break the law in other areas.

Oh and all those people who get speeding tickets in error? Man, no government would do that! Or would they...? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1370557.stm

I've never recieved a speeding ticket or been in trouble with the law (or even had any run-ins with them). I'll rail against a Big Brother government as much as I like because quite frankly, governments aren't as innocent as people might think, and the thought of somebody, somewhere, having a grudge against me and altering CCTV footage or screwing with my Oyster card's data to make me look like a criminal frankly terrifies me.

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imrhati

its an honest question, I am not defending a Big Brother government, I am seriously interested in why it takes away ones freedom. I guess I am ignorant to the actual effects it has on the society, so please educated me.

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I'm not very good at explaining things but by having chips implanted in your body that track your every move, facial recognition, ID cards that have all your info and medical history, iris scans, cameras everywhere, be able to watch your every move on the internet, cameras that can see through walls, "security" posts on street corners to watch for crime, blimps in the sky, listening in on your telephone calls, vehicles that can be tracked and monitored for behavior. etc. It's all invasion of privacy. It has that feeling of being guilty before innocent instead of the other way around. I don't like that feeling.



I would feel less safe knowing that someone is listening in on my phone calls, looking through my walls, watching my every move to see if I make a mistake. It can easily be an abusive power and I believe that’s what it will become. Technology can mess up; people would be able to hack and crack your info and change it. Make you look like someone on the run or a terrorist. etc. And I’m sure the government would use that to there advantage if they every wanted to stage something. Because we all know they use fear to control people. Technology comes with a price. Eventually it could lead to innocent people being arrested, tortured, and or killed for nothing. Just to make it look like there catching bad people and terrorists. I would feel less safe in that kind of world.



This Is turning into a debate lol

imrhati

so a simialr problem to communism, not so much that the system is wrong its that the people that use it don't use ity right?

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Yeah, but I'm not sure if something like mass surveillance can ever be used right.

I have doubts about whether it prevents terrorism anyway - helps catch them after the fact? Sure. But prevention of terrorism, prevention of crime? I don't think CCTV is enough of a deterrent.

On the lighter side, CCTV does have its humorous moments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0tGatUspu8

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imrhati

LOL nice video.

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