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07-30-2006, 04:15 PM
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Cliche ways to start a novel?
I'm getting serious about writing a novel (I've been doing short stories) and I really don't want to start the book with a cliche. So, I'm asking all of you, what is one cliche opening that you have seen?
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07-30-2006, 04:30 PM
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Wordsmith
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A great idea for a word game!
"It was raining..."
"It was morning"
"He got up and looked in the mirror"
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07-30-2006, 04:33 PM
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I would say try not to start off with anything like "A long time ago", "Once upon a time", "Many years ago", or anything like that unless it's really necessary to tell the story. There are other ways to introduce the time and setting that are better.
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07-30-2006, 04:35 PM
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Check this out, the one way you should never start out a novel is by describing the weather! I see that, and I run away. Far. Far. Away.
On a completely different note, "Once upon a time..."  I am also in the beginnings of a novel. It's not so much that you start the novel in a cliche way, after all, by the time you seriously edit it, it will be dead. Really. Really. Dead.
-Cacafire
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07-30-2006, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cacafire
Check this out, the one way you should never start out a novel is by describing the weather! I see that, and I run away. Far. Far. Away.
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What if your story is about a cloud?
(Don't laugh, it could happen...I suppose)
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07-30-2006, 05:33 PM
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The only 'crime' when oprning a novel is to make it uninteresting.
Yes, plenty start with descriptions of gloomy skies, or the protagonist examining themselves in the mirror, etc. Many editors will recommend that you never start a novel with dialogue.
Simple truth is, if you can make it interesting, and make the reader want to read the next sentence, paragraph, page, chapter, you can break any rule you like. Just do it well.
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07-30-2006, 06:19 PM
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Just start with a bit of action. The reader can follow the excitement of what is happening and, as they do, they will begin to ask why this is happening. And that's what you've got the rest of the novel for.
Have a look at the opening to Ian McEwan's Enduring Love to see a dramatic opening.
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08-10-2006, 01:33 PM
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Thanks everyone for your replies.
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08-10-2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cacafire
after all, by the time you seriously edit it, it will be dead. Really. Really. Dead. 
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So encouraging! but, its true...
Editing will probably shorten your novel down by 25% so be careful of that, too. Editing will maul it.
Alice
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08-10-2006, 03:09 PM
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I'm waiting for someone to recommend a novel or story that opens with "It was a dark and stormy night" and is actually worth finishing.
Maybe it's because I've been exposed to a lot of writing that starts this way, but I personally am getting tired of stories that open with sentences that follow the timeframe-action format:
The summer I was 10, I killed my father.
Marie divorced Charlie on her 40th birthday.
etc.
Such sentences are actually considered good openers from the standpoint of hooking the reader, but after a while even this format can get kind of old, particularly since it's often followed by exposition that begins with lines like "It was a dark and stormy night..." 
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08-10-2006, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkFX
I'm waiting for someone to recommend a novel or story that opens with "It was a dark and stormy night" and is actually worth finishing.
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How about Paul Clifford by Edward Bulwer-Lytton?
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08-11-2006, 02:00 AM
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You mean:
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Originally Posted by Edward Bulwer-Lytton
It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents, except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the house-tops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness. Through one of the obscurest quarters of London, and among haunts little loved by the gentlemen of the police, a man, evidently of the lowest orders, was wending his solitary way.
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08-11-2006, 02:22 AM
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Beautiful. Just beautiful.
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08-11-2006, 09:41 AM
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LOL...I know this is the book...but was it/is it a good book?
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08-12-2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkFX
LOL...I know this is the book...but was it/is it a good book?
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I couldn't tell you. I can't get past the first few pargraphs. Read it here.
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