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Old 03-06-2005, 11:19 AM   #1
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Subsidy Pubs. and the experience

I was going to post this earlier, it appears someone sort of beat me to the main theme. I decided to post it seperate, instead of replying to the other thread, because I actually have experience at dealing with such a thing. If you have ever even considered, for a moment, about mailing a subsidy publisher a red cent, then please...please....please, don't put your self through the hassle and let-down.

When I first got out of high school, I was riding high. I had just graduated with Honors, among my highest grades being english and grammer. The world was at my fingertips. For nearly three years I sat home, working oddball jobs to support my part of the bills, and I wrote. I would get up in the morning, write twelve hours, do my two acre garden, and write a little more. In those few short years, I wrote ten novels. All of my writing awards in school, always echoing in the recesses of my mind. Stacking these longhand novels on top of each other, I have a stack of manuscripts up to my waist. (Thank God for the PC)

I was reading a magazine one day when I wandered upon an ad in the back asking for authors. I had never had dealings with anything in the writing world, and I learned that this is what subsidy publishers depend on. Your ignoreance.

My family helped me type up on of my books, a title called, Secret Vengeance, and we mailed it off. Six weeks later, a letter arrived telling me that my manuscript had went in before the editor and they would send me a letter in a few weeks on the verdict. I thought it weird when the letter arrived the next morning. At the same time, I was excited, because in the editorial notes, it was apparent that they had indeed read the story.

In the end I left my meager existence to go out and get a real job. The small town was behind me, for my face was in the towns annual magazine, as "A young man who would put us on the map." Boy, this fueled me. Our bank gave us a loan for a certain amount, and I working night day for a year, rolling in the popularity.

After, six thousand dollars, I began to come down off my high. They were not living up to their part of anything. They had not sent me the book jackets. A lawyer friend had looked over the contract, and told me that this was typical.

When a contract says "We will produce up to 5,000 copies..." it means they can produce "one, or two" and they have fulfilled their terms. The attorney told me, if ever you sign a contract, get exact totals.

Not long after, I quit sending them a red cent. I realized that I had been taken. The total was almost 13000, that in my younger, STUPID ASS, years, did not seem like a very big hill. Ask me what I think now, and I just smile, and say, "I lived and I learned."

Three days before Christmas of 1998, I received a letter in the mail with the letterhead from some New York lawyer, stating that Carlton Press had filed bankruptcy, either send him ten dollars for the return of my manuscript, or it would be shredded and thrown in the dumpster..and that is pretty much what it said. Lets just add a little insult to injury.

I am sure CARLTON PRESS is still around, just under another name. There are others, I think is called Vantage, or Vintage...I don't give a crap to really know, but, avoid any such publisher. The frame of mind about paying just to see your writting in print, is foolish thoughts. I was young, I learned that if it isn't good enough for the publisher to pay you, then tell them to go to hell.

Watch yourselves....continue to work on your writing, so that one day, you will become that author you always planned to be.

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Old 03-06-2005, 02:30 PM   #2
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It was good to hear your story. Thanks for sharing.

I'm impressed you wrote that much. Have you had the chance to publish with a serious company since?
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Old 03-06-2005, 04:02 PM   #3
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I am currently just getting serious about my writting again. Family and work have taken alot out of me....but.....you know, here I am
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Old 03-06-2005, 05:39 PM   #4
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Well, good luck. This time you'll certainly know what to do, and what not.
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Old 03-06-2005, 09:27 PM   #5
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Interesting story.

You certainly sound like [you were?] a prolific writer. Although, you can have a hundred thousand pages of shit.
At least you can avoid such a situation again.
But then, so can I, 13,000$ at your expense.
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:50 PM   #6
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I can certainly elate to that because in my younger days I was living a naive dream in which a vanity publisher told me he would publish my book, and of course, being rather green and naive in the ways of publishing, I fell for it, and wound up a few hundred dollars lighter. Nothing came of anything, of course, and now that I think about it, I could have written the crappiest book imaginable and they would have been eager to "publish" it, just so they could get a hold of my money.
I should mention that this was before the internet, before forums such as this that warn you about things like vanity publishing.
No one should ever send their work to a vanity publisher, unless they are willing to part with $$$$.
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