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Old 01-10-2005, 08:54 PM   #16
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Could you explain a bit more the supposed relationship between Star Wars: A New Hope and LOTR, Jan?


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Yes - Star Wars was very archetypal and was supposed to be. George Lucas was friends with a man named Joseph Campbell, a Jungian psychologist who specialised in mythology.
Supposedly, they spent many an hour chatting about mythology and archetypes and in this way Cambpell helped Lucas use a number of archetypes in his story - what you could call a "samurai story" - a young boy (Luke) is given a sword (light sabre) by a sword master (Kenobi) and trains to become a samurai under the training of another sword master (Yoda).Even the names show this link.
Another easily recognisable link to archetypes is the character Darth Vader. The word Darth or Daath is actually a hebrew word meaning "the unknown" and is one of the sections or sephira of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life - or Sephiroth.

A little on the life of Joseph Campbell can be found at the following site.
http://www.jcf.org/about_jc.php

I read The Power of Myth and watched some of the interview - Campbell talks extensively about the mythology used in Star Wars and other movies. Fascinating - and goes to show how useful mythology can be in strengthening the power of a story...
There is only supposed to be 24 or 25 plots that can be marketed, myths and ancient stories are freqently adapted into movies. Call it what ever you want but unless your going to pay $11.50 to see Zen Master Hiki-Ori read the samurai's tale on screen don't complain. If that was even what your were doing. I also find it incredibly hard to believe Star Wars is

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The word Darth or Daath is actually a hebrew word meaning "the unknown"
LOL I love this, you went from samurai's journey or what ever to Hebrew fir the unknown. I had a laugh.



- If you re-read what I wrote you will notice I was writing about archetypes. Star Wars being a Samurai story was not my point - my point was that Star Wars and the themes it incorporates are archetypal. The "hero" archetype of Luke and the samurai theme is evident. The fact that they use the Hebrew Darth was just another example of using archetypal themes. Campbell and Lucas are Jewish, I believe, which is why he would have chosen such an archetype...
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