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09-21-2004, 06:00 PM
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Dealing with rejection
Sometimes you need to have a laugh at your rejection. I learned that today when I visited this web site -- www.writingfailure.com. I wrote three pages after my visit. Pretty funny stuff.
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09-25-2004, 03:20 PM
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usually, whatever someone tells you as constructive critism is true, what you should do is look at your work again-in their light, bearing in mind what they say, and either improve it or bin it. Learn from rejection
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09-26-2004, 08:31 AM
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couldnt have said it better 
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09-26-2004, 10:59 AM
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Writing Machine
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Originally Posted by rainbow
usually, whatever someone tells you as constructive critism is true, what you should do is look at your work again-in their light, bearing in mind what they say, and either improve it or bin it. Learn from rejection
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I think you need to be a little careful in applying this. Soneone's constructive criticism is only "true" in the sense that it's their true opinion. If you seek constructive criticism from several sources, you'll often find disagreement between them, and it's not unusual to find direct contradiction. For this reason, you shouldn't assume that the opinion of one person represents the 'truth', simply an opinion. It may well be good advice, but you, as the author and owner of a piece have the final say as to whether you wish to take or ignore that advice.
Omni
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09-26-2004, 11:12 AM
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unless their critique is pointing out grammar problems or structure prtoblems- those are pretty much universal truths- Also, they can be valuable in pointing out wether the story has appeal enough to be considered for publication
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09-26-2004, 03:22 PM
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Opinions are like a-holes, everybody has one. I've been in writing groups of 60 or more people. Each one would interpret what i wrote, or what each other wrote, in a different way. What you need to look for is not what people point out, but affirmation. Affirmation of something you wrote that bothered you, and then bothered another, or affirmation of something you liked, and others liked as well. Also, if the majority find a particular part disturbing, and that was not your intent, then you should reconsider the way you are presenting that particular part.
Taking criticism is not an easy task. It requires that you set aside the investment of time, energy, and emotion you put into your work... and allow people to hit you with their best shot. Only then can you improve. For although art can be interpreted... damn ugly is still damn ugly.
The thing is, if you can step out of yourself, out of your ego, out of you defensive pride and your faltering self-esteem, and look at your work through the eyes of others... step into 3rd person mode and see your work for something other than the 'baby' you birthed... you'll gain insight into just what it is that needs improvement. Not merely on that particular story, but on all future stories... and possibly on ones written in the past.
Thanks for reading
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09-26-2004, 05:15 PM
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wow I should post all my work on that site...
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10-06-2004, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rainbow
usually, whatever someone tells you as constructive critism is true, what you should do is look at your work again-in their light, bearing in mind what they say, and either improve it or bin it. Learn from rejection
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If you are in any creative field, people are going to have opinions. Sometimes those opinions will offend. Occasionally, they'll hurt. Often they'll help.
AS long as it's constructive, take it on board and set a course for adventure.
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10-06-2004, 04:50 PM
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With opinions on your work, you should consider every one of them before applying any of them to your work. Use what you can and throw out the rest.
Anyhow, if a publisher says you have no audience, then you probably don't. Remember, publishers look for what'll sell, not what is or isn't a good story. So if they don't accept your 8 book fantasy epic because they don't think it has an audience, then don't take it to heart and search for someone else to look at it.
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10-06-2004, 09:04 PM
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I feel obligated to point out that there are a number of books (e.g. Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance) that went through over a hundred submissions--at least, I think that's right--before someone published it. And that was a book that was in definite need of constructive criticism.
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10-07-2004, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by crceres
I feel obligated to point out that there are a number of books (e.g. Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance) that went through over a hundred submissions--at least, I think that's right--before someone published it. And that was a book that was in definite need of constructive criticism.
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You have to remember I think there are people who are convinced, despitre all evidence, they are right. In some cases this is to be admired. It is an admirable quality to pursue your dream, no matter how deluded it seems to others.
However, most of us will take a firm look at projects and see if they need re-writing. I used to send script off as soon as I had finished them when I first started and became very bitter about the responses. Now, having learned my trade, I develop, nuture, and take on board what people have to say. I take on board what I think is relevant and disregard anything I think doesn't gel with the project. It's a lot like having a salad. I always disgard the celery, whilst dipping the tomatoes into the mayonaise and enjoying the fresh, pure taste.
So my scripts are full of mayonaise and tomato stains? So what?
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06-24-2007, 04:02 AM
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So how DO you deal with rejections?
Like this  ... like this ...  or like this ...
Christ, I'm more like this:
Hmm...
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06-24-2007, 04:02 AM
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06-24-2007, 05:03 AM
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I go like this...
"Blah."
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06-25-2007, 03:41 AM
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why are you guys replying to posts that are YEARS old?... take a look at the date of the last post that's noted on the left side of it, at the very top...
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