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03-04-2008, 11:08 PM
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Hemingway is herladed because be was the harbinger of a style that has been perused and expanded upon by countless writers. In terms of actual prose, he's been outshined countless times by contemporary novelists, but because he is the man who brought it to the table, he's the one we see as the focal point. I recently bought the Barnes and Noble "Essential Writers," collection of Hemingway and adored it, so don't think I'm trying to open an attack on him. However, he is open to critique. As much as I enjoyed his stories, at times I felt like he must have been listening to a metronome while he was writing.
Anyways, I agree with Lin, but I rather be a little more blunt in stating my opinion regarding the matter: If you suck, people won't comment.
When I comment on a story, I don't do it with the intention of hoping they'll see mine and comment back--that's stupid. If I see something I like, or notice an error that I feel some inexplicable urge to want to fix, then I'll comment.
This whole "Give and Take," mindset some of you seem to have is funny. If I post something and no one comments, then it's because my writing sucked, plain and simple.
OH! And one more thing. If your story is falling low on the radar, please don't "Bump," it. Those writers piss me off more than anything.
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03-05-2008, 01:14 AM
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Hemingway's Guide for Writing
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03-05-2008, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by winner
Hemingways 4 Rules
1) Use short sentences
2) Use short first paragraphs
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03-05-2008, 03:36 AM
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Ink Slinger
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Originally Posted by Baron
What does this really have to do with this thread?
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Since when has anything posted by anybody had anything to do with the thread where it appears? 
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I view with distaste the excretions polluting this site, suffering when I read another by-product of the boredom of one with access to a computer and the internet. As I read I feel I am being defecated on, and cling to an idea that one day I may find solace in the words of one who takes pride in their work.
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03-05-2008, 03:40 AM
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03-05-2008, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by The Backward OX
Since when has anything posted by anybody had anything to do with the thread where it appears? |
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03-05-2008, 08:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SevenWritez
Hemingway is herladed because be was the harbinger of a style that has been perused and expanded upon by countless writers. In terms of actual prose, he's been outshined countless times by contemporary novelists, but because he is the man who brought it to the table, he's the one we see as the focal point. I recently bought the Barnes and Noble "Essential Writers," collection of Hemingway and adored it, so don't think I'm trying to open an attack on him. However, he is open to critique. As much as I enjoyed his stories, at times I felt like he must have been listening to a metronome while he was writing.
Anyways, I agree with Lin, but I rather be a little more blunt in stating my opinion regarding the matter: If you suck, people won't comment.
When I comment on a story, I don't do it with the intention of hoping they'll see mine and comment back--that's stupid. If I see something I like, or notice an error that I feel some inexplicable urge to want to fix, then I'll comment.
This whole "Give and Take," mindset some of you seem to have is funny. If I post something and no one comments, then it's because my writing sucked, plain and simple.
OH! And one more thing. If your story is falling low on the radar, please don't "Bump," it. Those writers piss me off more than anything.
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Yes, the writing might have sucked... but if no one says why, how does one improve? I agree that "bumping" is annoying, but you can't expect everyone who joins here to be perfect or even decent on the first try. That's why they come: to improve.
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03-05-2008, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ilasir Maroa
Yes, the writing might have sucked... but if no one says why, how does one improve? I agree that "bumping" is annoying, but you can't expect everyone who joins here to be perfect or even decent on the first try. That's why they come: to improve.
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I agree, if you came here to write you want to have critiques and bumping the thread is okay. Well, it's okay as long as it isn't that frequent; I try to wait a couple days before I bump a thread of mine again.
EDIT: I meant bumping, as in asking questions, not just bumping looking for praise.
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03-05-2008, 10:27 AM
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If you just bump, it's best to provide some more incentive for a post. Ask questions, point out edits. but "bump" is not acceptable on its own, IMO.
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My hopeful book:
Crap! Haven't posted it anywhere yet, darn!
"Only tyranny cloaks itself in shadows. The light of justice can not be hidden."
www.theoddvillepress.com
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03-06-2008, 02:34 PM
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03-06-2008, 05:19 PM
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That made my teeth itch the first time I read it. Now it's been foisted on an unsuspecting public again. Three strikes and I shall ask a mod to trash the thread in the interests of common sanity.
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Originally Posted by Wildcard
I view with distaste the excretions polluting this site, suffering when I read another by-product of the boredom of one with access to a computer and the internet. As I read I feel I am being defecated on, and cling to an idea that one day I may find solace in the words of one who takes pride in their work.
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03-06-2008, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Archer
I refuse to be the bad guy because I feel that aspiring writers should take responsibility for learning the basics before they ask others to spend time trying to help them.
I don't belittle them. I don't berate them. But I will not spend my effort if they aren't willing to first spend their effort. If that makes me intolerant or arrogant in some people's eyes, so be it.
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03-06-2008, 07:25 PM
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Wordsmith
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Originally Posted by Eli Cash
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03-06-2008, 07:26 PM
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Not when people like us keep bumping it, lol.
Anyway, all this for one simple question as to how to get readers? Seems a lot.
Sam.
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03-06-2008, 07:34 PM
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Wordsmith
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Originally Posted by Sam Winchester
Not when people like us keep bumping it, lol.
Anyway, all this for one simple question as to how to get readers? Seems a lot.
Sam.
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But it's quite funny in places.  |
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