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Old 01-10-2008, 12:14 PM   #1
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Difference between 'Workshop'&'Critique'

I'm sorry to bother you with this, especially if it has been explained before, but what exactly is the difference between the 'Critique and Advice' section and the 'Writer's Workshop' section?

It looks to me like in both sections writers post their work and get comments, so I'm a bit confused.

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Old 01-10-2008, 12:17 PM   #2
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Writers' Workshop is a members only forum, helping in protecting your first rights for work you post for critique.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:00 PM   #3
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But since you have to be a member to post in "Critique and Advice" anyway, what's the point of having two of them? Wouldn't we do fine with just the workshop?
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I think it only lets members view it, whereas "Critique" allows guests to look at the stories.
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:20 PM   #5
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But since you have to be a member to post in "Critique and Advice" anyway, what's the point of having two of them? Wouldn't we do fine with just the workshop?
The difference isn't about who can post in the forums--it's about who can see them.

If you aren't logged in, the Writer's Workshop isn't even visible. It's a measure that will, we hope, protect first publication rights, because in the WW, your material is being workshopped with a select group of people rather than being made available on the internet as a whole.

I suggest: if you might ever publish it, put it in WW. If it's a practice piece and you're looking to improve your skills, put it in C&A.
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:16 PM   #6
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The difference isn't about who can post in the forums--it's about who can see them.

If you aren't logged in, the Writer's Workshop isn't even visible. It's a measure that will, we hope, protect first publication rights, because in the WW, your material is being workshopped with a select group of people rather than being made available on the internet as a whole.

I suggest: if you might ever publish it, put it in WW. If it's a practice piece and you're looking to improve your skills, put it in C&A.
I get this but still... I don't really see the point (unless it's some sort of legal mumbojumbo). If I was looking to steal a story I probably wouldn't have a problem registering first, it would be awefully hard to find the culprit among thousands of members. The selected group of people is pretty big in this case.

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Old 01-10-2008, 04:08 PM   #7
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Cheers, I get it now Although I have to agree that it isn't the greatest protection, it probably does help a little.

Now I know where to post, so thanks.
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Old 01-10-2008, 04:23 PM   #8
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I get this but still... I don't really see the point (unless it's some sort of legal mumbojumbo). If I was looking to steal a story I probably wouldn't have a problem registering first, it would be awefully hard to find the culprit among thousands of members. The selected group of people is pretty big in this case.
It has nothing to do with someone stealing your work or stealing someone else's work. What the WW does is (to a point) protect your First Publishing Rights.

Meaning: Work that is available for every Tom, Dick and Harry on the web (say, posted on your personal blog or the Q & A section, or the Fiction section), is , by publishing standards, considered 'published'--out there, already available. Work posted in a workshop setting (members only) is considered a 'work-in-progress', and therefore still retains its marketability. Work posted in the WW does not turn up on an internet search.

Although there are many publishers who will accept previously published work, by far, they're after something that's not already out there.

I could be way off here, but I got the impression you mistook First Publishing Rights to mean the first person to get their hands on it and make a sale. Just to clarify, that's not what it means. Copyright is still in effect no matter what.
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I see. Thanks, val.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:50 AM   #10
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Oh, that is excellent! Thanks for explaining.
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:00 AM   #11
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Another slant

Trust XO to think of this one:

Just a wild, random, haphazard, unthinking guess, but does anyone else have the impression that C&A has more hormonal teenagers posting than does WW?
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