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Old 04-25-2005, 07:03 PM   #1
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"Three Little Sheep" Mason Herbert story, 5000 wor

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Old 04-25-2005, 10:07 PM   #2
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One day I wandered far from home and into the backwoods of the small town in Massachusetts were we lived
dont you mean where* ?

just some minor problems... i really like how you use first person, guts. i also like how the story is setup, beautiful! keep it up.
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Hey Eggo,
The story started off intrigueing when his assignment is told to him. I liked the premise.

The scene when he talks to Gloria is interesting and well down. It made me believe that the father had a reason to kidnap her.

I like learning that the girl wasn't captured and that he father died and that was the reason. I also liked how it made the mother look like the bad parent. I liked that aspect alot.

It gets kind of shaky after that.

I don't understand why he goes to the bar. There wasn't much of a point for him to go. And how he meets the cop who tells him valuable info is too coincidental.

Last thing is the mystery was solved too easily. The first place he tries and he finds the girl

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“ Bad move. Her father is the one who broke the law. Prosecuting Linda Wells would gain nothing except widening a rift between you and your daughter”

“ Maybe you are right.” I saw the wave of different emotions run across her face. “ Thank you Mister Herbert , I’ll have my lawyers send you your fee”
Here, I just feel the mother changes her mind way too easily.


Some other more minor things I noticed.

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“ Yes, won’t you come in” I was led into a living room decorated in a nu veau style and sat on a chair. The chair was as beautiful as it was uncomfortable.
Whose talking here. The way it is laid out, at first I thought it was Mason speaking. Its actually the mother. To avoid confusion make a new paragraph for that. A general rule is that you should make a new paragraph whenever the action after the dialogue is not of the speakers.

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Cruising along interstate 93 the flat lands give way to the hills and then the mountains, I let Carl drive.
I guess this just my preference but I think it would read more smoothly if you took out the "the"s before hill and mountain.

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We pulled into Coyote Creek after leaving the sanctuary of route 93.
I'm not sure sanctuary is the right word here. The definition didn't seem to fit for a freeway.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sanctuary

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I got out of the car and found the front door of the den. I walked into the bar and was surveyed by the local denizens. I walked and sat down at the bar.
Reword this paragraph. You can probably consolidate these sentences into two or one sentence

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The leader in this bar was called Murp
Does Mason know Murphy? Has he met him before? It doesn't seem like he does, so those this seems to be out of his POV. But I guess it is past tense, so he should know about this already, I guess... Now I'm confused.

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He dropped into a fighters stance and threw a hard overhand right. Many people when they get into a fight look for a quick hard right to end it as quick as possible. Ironic when he had started it.
I dont understand how the last sentence fits with the other sentences of this paragraph.

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Carl guided his right by grabbing his wrist with our left and pulling. He planted our left foot with our hiking boots on the top of his right foot, I heard a nice crackle . Then a quick overhand right into the nose was greeted by a another crunch and he went down like a ton of bricks.
The first setence I am assuming Carl is grabbing the other guys wrist, and not his own because thats what I assumed at first. Took me a couple reads to figure that out. Same thing with the rest of the paragaph.
I think you have to call him Murphy.

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He was cruiser weight champion in New England .
This makes me think that he is a small guy or average size. Isn't cruiser wieght like only 130-160 or something. That makes the man seem less imposing.

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The house was a withered garrison set atop a hill. An apple orchard surrounded the house. The trees just showing their first buds set in rows like sentinels defending the house.
You use "house" too much here
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Just started the story. Wasn't planning to read it now, but your nice clean style grabbed me. I like the opening.

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I had lost a couple of limbs on the big maple and the yard looked as if winters war against nature had been won.
Reads funny. Seems like he lost the limbs falling out of the tree or something.

Also should be "winter's"


The following typos/grammaticals you can fix. They are obvious:

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I pulled into Burlington at 12:00 after hitting my far share of traffic...
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...black circles under her eye’s...
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Sometimes that can’t devote the time I can to a case” I replied
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Its how we get along.

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“ You guys coming up here and buying all the land for your summer places” he spouted.
Actually you do this a lot. Should be "places," Watch how you connect your dialogue to your narrative. The punctuation is almost always wrong.

Also, don't be afraid to use "said". This is a mistake I used to make that was pointed out to me by Fishbar and some others. Let your dialogue define itself.


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...like a ton of bricks.
"Avoid cliches like the plague. Seek viable alternatives."

I agree with gohn about the ending. Also the fight scene, except for Carl's involvement felt gratuitous and cliche. The other persona seemed to enjoy it a bit too much too.

Feels like an excerpt from a novel. Not tight and efficient enough for the short story genre.

I like the opening. You can write. Re-read and edit closely.
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Old 04-26-2005, 11:30 PM   #5
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Hey,

Thanks very much for reading through this. It was quite a bit rougher than I thought and I appreciate it.

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Thanks for the input i tied up some loose ends..

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I don't understand why he goes to the bar. There wasn't much of a point for him to go. And how he meets the cop who tells him valuable info is too coincidental.
I added a bit to explain the bar, just a out of towner trying to pick up some info (and get a beer). The police had responded from a call inside the bar and I clarified it.

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Last thing is the mystery was solved too easily. The first place he tries and he finds the girl
When a genius makes something look easy, everybody thinks it is. It would be easy to reach Novella territory and I tried to keep the word count around 4000.


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Here, I just feel the mother changes her mind way too easily
Your right ,it was. I added the hook I left out.

I fixed all the other things you mentioned as all were good points.

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I'm not sure sanctuary is the right word here. The definition didn't seem to fit for a freeway.
If you drove around the highways up here in New England you would understand. Up there, once you pull off the highway sometimes you leave civilization behind.


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This makes me think that he is a small guy or average size. Isn't cruiser wieght like only 130-160 or something. That makes the man seem less imposing.
Cruiser weights are 195 pounds 15 pounds over heavyweights. The steamship of boxing.

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Just started the story. Wasn't planning to read it now, but your nice clean style grabbed me. I like the opening.
The ability to grab some one is what I was looking for, thanks.

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I had lost a couple of limbs on the big maple and the yard looked as if winters war against nature had been won.
fixed it

I did go back and fix the errors , blantant and otherwise.


I think I actually posted an earlier version after having destroyed a proof read one. Weak excuses Illicit strong reponses. I appreciate the fact you finished reading it.

I reworked the fight scence a bit, tweaking it in a couple of places. I tried to inject a little remorse into Mace and restraint into Carl. Besides Murph really needed to get his ass kicked.

Perhaps you are right about the material being to much for the short story gig, but so many times short storys limp along on little ideas and sparse fuel. Other times novels clank along at a rate where you could put cooking ingredients in the middle. I like my short storys to be a barrage of ideas and try to keep the style clean and readable.

Thanks, I reposted my edited copy .
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Old 04-26-2005, 11:39 PM   #6
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Hi eggo.

It's better. Cleaner. But you still get the quote tags wrong. Watch your simple punctuation.

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“ We know who did it, her father.” he answered
Use a comma, not a period. Why the leading space? Put a period after "answered" though.

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...to break the old mans reign.
"man's" There are a number of similar errors. Make sure you indicate the posessive and not the plural.

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“ Hey Mace , how the hell are you.”
Not sure why you prefix all your dialogue with a space. Also, this is a question "?". Also, why a space before the comma? I know, I know. Nitpicky.

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I have seen my far share of trophy houses...
"fair"

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I went outside and started my car amazed at how little I had learned in the bar when a police car pulled up in front of my own.
You need commas after "car" and "bar". This is another common oversight.

The story has a nice flow. I really like the beginning, the dual persona thing. I think a really close edit will tighten it up some more.
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Old 04-27-2005, 10:50 PM   #8
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Hi eggo.

It's better. Cleaner. But you still get the quote tags wrong. Watch your simple punctuation.

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“ We know who did it, her father.” he answered
Use a comma, not a period. Why the leading space? Put a period after "answered" though.

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...to break the old mans reign.
"man's" There are a number of similar errors. Make sure you indicate the posessive and not the plural.

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“ Hey Mace , how the hell are you.”
Not sure why you prefix all your dialogue with a space. Also, this is a question "?". Also, why a space before the comma? I know, I know. Nitpicky.

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I have seen my far share of trophy houses...
"fair"

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I went outside and started my car amazed at how little I had learned in the bar when a police car pulled up in front of my own.
You need commas after "car" and "bar". This is another common oversight.

The story has a nice flow. I really like the beginning, the dual persona thing. I think a really close edit will tighten it up some more.
Thanks Chris,

will do my best to watch my Punctuation. Most times it only proves to be a irritant to me.

I use Microsoft Works Word Processor and for some reason it likes to add spaces and drop things . It doesn't like Yabba much.
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