Help For Villain - Writers Forum

Creator · 10-29-2007, 08:40 PM

Hi I am out to create a realistic villain for a eugenic version of our reality which may happened in within a decade or so. But I am just simply lost. I have this theory that all people are kind when they were first born into this world. it is the later experiences that shape the person's behaviour.

ok... I need a trigger that will anger or prompt the villain/villainess into a eugenic terror. I don't wish for this villain to make such a big star appearance like hitler did.

Trigger 1: OK maybe he is a good man who wanted to improve mankind but someone[anti-eugenics] killed his family. So he started his path down the dark side. But then.... how is he going to influence the designer human population to start a silent war without making too much of an appearance.

Trigger 2: If it's a she, I got one idea. She is the ultimate woman, almost like a goddess. But maybe she is too smart so smarter men get a bit turned off.

Trigger 3: A bit Batman and a bit Hannibal Lector, parent killed by criminals. And as an orphan, at the orphanage he decided that he should be strong as his genes are. But how is he/her going to ...

I am also looking into the environmental factors too. It would be too simple a concept as in humans are slowly evolving dysgenically...... I seem to see a surge of deformity in humans becoming more evident in the past recent years.

Lastly, I am anything but lost over how this will work since I am running out of ideas. I am aware of some of you being impatient with me.

ClancyBoy · 10-30-2007, 01:54 AM

Maybe reading up on eugenics can give you some ideas.

I'm curious what you mean by "eugenic terror." What's the terror part? Something like Gattaca?

Creator · 10-30-2007, 02:23 AM

Err that link you gave me tops the list in my research folder amongst other stuff.... Thanks anyway.

Well for eugenic terror I was refering to something like Hitler, he is considered one from a eugenic point of view. But I prefer that the villain being more subtle than Hitler who is loud as a LRAD when it comes to manipulating the masses. I prefer a puppet master, that's more evil.... remember yr bosses bootlicker?

I am writing a chapter especially for this villain/villainess. Cause she was one of the hidden factors that sparked the Eugenic wars in my saga. Think of it what hannibal Rising is to Red Dragon.

Sybre · 10-30-2007, 08:35 AM

How about a woman scientist (I'd go for geneticist to provide the knowledge they'd need to be able to cause trouble) who irreversibly damaged her ovaries through contact with one (or more) of the chemicals used in her research. The stress of miscarriages/still births/babies whose defects mean they only live a few days could send her over the edge and make her seek revenge on the rest of humanity for being able to have healthy, normal children.

The exposure to the mutagenic agent could be through her own misuse (blames herself but probably can't come to terms with it), someone else's carelessness (blames them - could start off by trying to take revenge on them personally), the lab's poor health and safety standards (blames the scientific organisation) or even from a company not testing a reagent thoroughly enough (blames the company).

Creator · 10-30-2007, 09:00 AM

Hmmm well sybre you have a strange idea but it's fits only dysgenic since the villain now wants revenge on healthy, normal children instead.

Eugenics is more on promoting health, normal or over average offspring.

Sybre · 10-30-2007, 09:13 AM

Fair enough - didn't read the original post thoroughly enough!
You could switch so that the inability to have her own children drives her to view the entire human race as her offspring and she feels compelled to improve them.

Creator · 10-30-2007, 08:39 PM

I am sorry I didn't sort of my thinking on this matter.

But Sybre's idea can be another trigger. Maybe the woman probably was like a female Willaim Stryker who could not accept her offspring being abnormal?

Thanks Sybre maybe your idea wasn't so bad afterall.... Thank you Writing Forums, you guy are much better than some other forums.

Creator · 10-31-2007, 04:00 AM

Hmm ok.... Since this villainess could not accept her own children, well that's her philosophy.

I figured she might lust for the genetically perfect man as well..... if the perfect man ever existed.

Creator · 11-02-2007, 07:11 PM

Don't worry I will write this tale myself..... in the future so give me some time to readjust..... plot holes.

After I remembered seeing my own hamster guzzling her babies. Maybe my villain has this baby-eating or baby killing psychology. This might be a good idea after alll. After giving birth so many deformed or hopeless children and marrying and divorcing so many men. She was about to start a relationship with a new man until one of her children now a psychotic killer like Hannibal now decides to kill his mother! Plus the fact that more and more deformed children being born these days... based on observation and news...

Criminality research has yet to show true proof that criminality can be inherited! But with a psychotic son like that.... it "drives her to view the entire human race as her offspring and she feels compelled to improve them."

Thank you Sybre....

Creator · 11-21-2007, 01:13 AM

What if more and more people are born deformed and plus the fact that there are more and more people who want to breed deformed children?

WriterDude · 11-22-2007, 05:43 AM

This kinda makes me thing of an old computer game called System Shock 2. A space station was run by an AI and did quite well for a while. The problem is the AI started thinking the humans would not be able to help her run the station. Quite the contrary, the would only end up destroying themselves and the entire station, so the AI ended up killing all of them for their own good. Better to kill them now and save the station than let them suffer for a long time and end up destroying everything.

Maybe the villain could do something like that? He/she isn't happy with the way the world works, so he/she decide to help us help ourselves. He or she might believe it's best if we all die now, so we don't suffer. Of course not "everyone" should die, just those who he or she thinks will destroy the planet with their ignorance. Just a thought.

Mike C · 11-22-2007, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WriterDude

A space station was run by an AI and did quite well for a while. The problem is the AI started thinking the humans would not be able to help her run the station.

Not at all a rip-off of 2001 then.

WriterDude · 11-22-2007, 07:39 AM

Yep, just like every single movie about an alien invasion is a rip-off of War Of The Worlds, and just like every single vampire movie is ripping off Dracula.