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06-14-2007, 09:46 PM
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Poachers
Hi I am writing tales that involve Poachers but however so little is known about them. Let discuss them them here.
Bascially I am interested in know what kind weapons they use to hunt, what are their backgrounds, and what kind of benefits in the evil sense that they gain from hunting an animal to extinction.
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06-15-2007, 12:52 AM
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You can just buy poachers in any kitchen store. Mine will poach four eggs at once. I don't consider it a weapon, but I might feel different if I were an egg.
Just fucking with you, Creator. I always wonder why people post somewhere like this so other people can tell them to try google, but there it is. Poachers don't necessarily hunt animals to extinction. THey are just hunting illegally or on private land or something. Robin Hood and his men were poachers because they shot the King's deer, for example.
I've poached salmon because I was hungry and there were lots of fish around and I couldn't see taking a few days to go get a fishing license.
They are just illegal hunters, using the same weapons. Traps, guns, etc. (If they shoot a deer during bow season or in a bow area, they are poachers, but hardly courting extinction. The deer is just as dead either way.
Poachers are generally after food or money, not sport (which of those is more evil, by the way..killling for food or for fun) and therefore often use unsporting means of killing. Dynamiting fish, jacklighting rabbits, putting out salt licks for deer, etc.)
Or maybe you mean big time poachers of ivory, tiger skins, etc. In which case, yeah...that's pretty evil. The best thing would be to raise aimals for that purpose, like steers and minks. But again, they are using the same weapons the "good killers" do.
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06-15-2007, 01:32 AM
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Google it. Or if you don't want to look through lots and lots of (mostly) useless link, go to Wikipedia. Or just make it up.
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06-15-2007, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by lin
Or maybe you mean big time poachers of ivory, tiger skins, etc. In which case, yeah...that's pretty evil. The best thing would be to raise aimals for that purpose, like steers and minks. But again, they are using the same weapons the "good killers" do.
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Ahem this is of serious matters here....
I have searched google before arriving here. Google has given me some info but however it has only given me what I already know. What I want to know now, is the reason why the price tag on a certain animal. We can make fake versions of it.....
And what makes an animal valuable that hunters will kills just to get it or to sell it......
And why do poachers do what they are doing? Poverty or fun? Guns are expensive to maintain
And Poachers are linked to triads and the underworld? Well I don't think Google can tell me in detail how they operate under the noses of police. Any Policemen here? My country men rarely encounter poachers.
"There is a difference between knowledge and wisdom"
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06-15-2007, 01:59 AM
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Then why didn't you say so on your first post? We can't read your mind and see what you already know, you know?
Poachers hunt because money makes the world go 'round. You want the fur of a magnificent Belgan Tiger, but guess what! They're a protected species!! So? get a poacher!!
Seriously now, it's obvious that real fur will be more valuable than synthetic fur, and some people are villanous enough to pay someone to get it for them. And for the underworld stuff, I think it's called "The Black Market", at least in my country.
Oh, and there's also something called "corruption", some cops might even accept some money to do just the opposite to what they're supposed to.
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06-15-2007, 03:13 AM
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Guns are not expensive to maintain.
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06-15-2007, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Creator
And Poachers are linked to triads and the underworld? Well I don't think Google can tell me in detail how they operate under the noses of police.
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But you think we can?
I don't know if I should be honoured or frightened.
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06-15-2007, 06:17 AM
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You're the one writing the story. If it suits you, make the link.
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06-15-2007, 08:14 AM
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First of all, whoever wrote "look at wikipedia", don't bother. Wikipedia is an inacurate source, because it can be edited by anyone. Someone at my school edited the 'tool' page so the definition was the nam
e of another person at
my school.
Secondly, the kind of
question you are asking is impo
ssible, because if the poac
hers are linked to driads of the unsderworld, then they are not realistic. Your best bet would be to make them up yourself...
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06-15-2007, 08:03 PM
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So what would be the accurate place to find out about poachers? What dictionary is perfect? Etc.
Wikipedia is a good place to start research from.
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06-15-2007, 08:48 PM
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What I want to know now, is the reason why the price tag on a certain animal. We can make fake versions of it.....
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like anything else that's sold, demand + availability sets the price... if lots of people want something that's only available in small quantities and/or hard to find, it'll cost a lot more than something that only a few want that's found lying around everywhere...
in the case some animals, the value is in having the 'trophy'... others, it's in what the parts of the animal are used for, such as the great demand in china for bear bile and powdered rhino horn...
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And what makes an animal valuable that hunters will kills just to get it or to sell it......
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see above...
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And why do poachers do what they are doing? Poverty or fun? Guns are expensive to maintain
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both... some for fun, some to live... and guns aren't expensive to maintain!... ammo is the only costly part of gun use...
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And Poachers are linked to triads and the underworld?
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some of them are and some do it on their own...
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Well I don't think Google can tell me in detail how they operate under the noses of police.
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common sense should... it's called 'bribery'!... greasing their palms... paying 'protection' money...
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...Any Policemen here? My country men rarely encounter poachers.
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where is that?...
btw, i agree with our zombie friend that wikipedia shouldn't be relied on for much more than links, since it's not compiled by pros... imo, creative googling on your own is a much more reliable way to find what you need to know...
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06-16-2007, 11:13 AM
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Ahem I am living on the island of singapore. My lsland was the crown colony of the British back in the Pirates of the Caribbean days[so the movie was incorrect!!!! I wanna kill that fellow who directed it.... They should use another place instead!! I don't think the British would leave their precious crown colony to Sao Feng....} ok enough about it's history.
And yah sorry for my lack of knowledge of guns, since Singapore has a ban on guns except for the authorities.... So that's why.... I though guns would be expensive..... even our triads here use clubs and knifes and swords but guns are rare....
Big Time Poachers never come to Singapore since the place has become Star Wars' Corusant, any creature beyond the sizes of snakes or the like has become extinct over the last world war...... In the area I live, there was an history of wild tigers. But the last tiger died about 100 years ago... So my country men rarely or never even seen a poacher or even use the word often except in science textbooks...
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06-16-2007, 11:17 AM
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OK I want to know what makes an animal valuable... Lets set an example from my tales.....
What value will the animals below cost in black market sense,
The Bird Sanctuary
A Tiger-sized Bearded Gryphon
A Gilder[this fellow makes saliva-based nests]
A Roman Harpy[This one has chimp intelligence]
A Chinese Dragon from Long....
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06-16-2007, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Creator
OK I want to know what makes an animal valuable... Lets set an example from my tales.....
What value will the animals below cost in black market sense,
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Whatever you want them to cost. They're fictional creatures with fictional supply and fictional demand, being paid for by fictional money in what's probably a fictional valuta.
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06-16-2007, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Creator
OK I want to know what makes an animal valuable... Lets set an example from my tales.....
What value will the animals below cost in black market sense,
The Bird Sanctuary
A Tiger-sized Bearded Gryphon
A Gilder[this fellow makes saliva-based nests]
A Roman Harpy[This one has chimp intelligence]
A Chinese Dragon from Long....
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I know this is obvious, but just to emphasize:
Just remember that supply and law has a great effect on value. If it's rare, or hard to collect, or has legal protection, then the value will be very high. Particularly if there is strong demand for it. Are there any myths or rumors that x anatomical part can cure x disease or enhance x property? That's a common driving force for poaching.
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