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Old 10-14-2005, 08:40 PM   #1
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Information Literacy

During college orientation my first semester, we did an "information literacy" thing. It surprised me to learn that many people did not know how to utilize search engines, and I see that problem on here sometimes as well (asking questions that can easily be answered by performing a quick google search). So here is what everyone should do before asking questions, especially if those questions have one line answers.


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1) Go to http://google.com whenever you have a question.

2) Type in a list of keywords regarding your question.

i.e. You want to know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop and you just can't keep yourself from biting it. This is what you do:

Type as many "keywords" as you can. Keywords are words that should lead to your answer. For this example, type tootsie roll pop licks center. Words like "and," "in," "is," and "the" are automatically omitted from any search because just about every web page is going to have them. The order of your keywords does not matter. The search engine will display the most relevant sites first. Put quotation marks ("text") around words/phrases that you want all your search results to have.

I just did a google search on this and found that it takes an average of 364 licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop.

3) There are also many advanced options you can utilize, like searching in a different language, searching only one website, and searching for sites without certain words. There should be an "advanced search" button you can click on for whatever search engine you prefer to use, and it will have these options.

4) Pat yourself on the back for finding answers all by yourself.
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Old 10-14-2005, 08:41 PM   #2
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Not all questions can be easily answered with a google search, however, so if your search should yield no results then you should ask someone.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:29 AM   #3
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hey, i never licked a lollipop in my life!... you lick ice cream cones... you suck on 'suckers' [and, no, i don't mean the obscene version, or that stupid phone ad version, either!] ...
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You can also Google "search engines" and come up with a whole bunch of them.
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Old 10-15-2005, 01:36 PM   #5
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Yeah, but Google is really the best. It searches the most websites of any search engine and it's the most intuitive in my opinion.
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Google also caches most websites so you can view the page with your keywords highlighted. And they also translate pages in foreign languages and convert .pdf files to HTML.

I wish I had invested in Google when it was still new.
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Old 10-16-2005, 12:38 PM   #7
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You can also Google "search engines" and come up with a whole bunch of them.
One problem with Google is that it catches too much and this can make a search a bit of a chore.

Has anyone here reached the end of a search where there are 5,000,000 plus hits? I got up to a thousand at one time (by jumping to the ends i.e. when it gives a list of pages at the bottom, I went up ten at a time) and then it stopped; no more hits even though it said millions. I'm sure there must have been a way to continue, but I didn't.
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Google displays the most relevant results first. If you know what you're doing the number of hits shouldn't matter at all unless there are only a few.
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One problem with Google is that it catches too much and this can make a search a bit of a chore.

Has anyone here reached the end of a search where there are 5,000,000 plus hits?
No because the things that I am looking for are usually on the first page, and most of the time within the first 1 or 2 links....

I know this post is old but Hodge linked it from another thread and I couldnt resist commenting.
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Reached the end of a search of 5,000,000 hits? If this means clicking on each result, assuming one minute per each result that's 57.8 years of clicking! Since search engines haven't been around that long, I'd answer that with a "No."

If just clicking on "Next" to view the next page of results, assuming 10 seconds scanning over the results of 10 per page (1 sec/result), that's 347 days straight. Possible, but results would change frequently in the interim.

But "Google does not serve more than 1000 results for any query." So it wouldn't matter if anyone tried.
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Sometimes if your first Google search brings back too many hits you can go to the bottom of the page and click "search within results" (or something like that anyway) and narrow down your search that way.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:09 PM   #12
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Google displays the most relevant results first.


Better go back and talk to teach again. Google has no way of knowing what is relevant to what you want to know. If you're looking for the PAGE scriptwriting contest if will feed you a ton of pages that all have the word "page" on them. It has no way of knowing if you're looking for Red Robin restaurants or Red Robin poems. It can't tell if you want Paris Hilton the hotel, or the obnoxious jailbird. It uses it's logic systems and parameters, but really can't tell what's relevant to you. Part of it's logic is sheer mass. You want a hotel in Barcelona but no specific name you're going to get page after page of big travel sites. Etc.

Correct in that it doesn't matter how many hits you get if you're finding what you need up top.

It does seem surprising that people don't know basic search techniques. Or have to go college to learn them.

For those interested in more advanced parameters, here's a little cheat sheet than can be very helpful.




1. Find similar terms

And you thought the tilde character (~) served no useful purpose. When you insert the tilde in front of a search term, Google will retrieve sources matching the word as well as synonyms.

Searching "~conservative" will yield the National Libertarian Party, the National Republican Committee and the Right Wing News home page. Do not leave a space between the tilde and the search term.

2. Exclude terms

Sometimes a keyword will come up with items totally unrelated to the subject you are interested in. A student researching plasma in the cosmos would type in the word plasma and be forced to wade through scores of sites referring to plasma televisions.

The fastest way to solve this is to use the exclude function, the hyphen. Search "plasma -tv" and you will eliminate many irrelevant sites.

Though better, that may still not be good enough - you'll wind up with sites using the word "television." Simply refine your search this way: "plasma -tv -television" and eliminate both terms from your results. (No need to use the word "and" or other punctuation.)

If you really want to be cool, combine your newfound skills and type "plasma -~tv" that will exclude all synonyms of TV.

3. Substitute for unknown words

Friends kid me that my memory is pretty bad; I think they exaggerate. But sometimes I need to look up a quotation for which I can't recall all the words. No problem. Use asterisks to stand in for missing words.

So if you forget, oh, let's say, the number of years that Whatsisname referred to in his famous address: Something score and something years ago ... just type "Four * and * years ago." Sometimes you'll come up with humorous results: Try "To * or not to *." Ol' William is not the first person whose quotation is retrieved.

4. Find lost pages

A wonderful but mostly overlooked feature of Google search is the cache option. Most people glance right past it, but in virtually all search results, you will see a link to cached versions of pages you are looking for.

You usually won't need to refer to these archival pages, but if your search ever turns up an old news page, for instance, you may find that when you click on the link, the page no longer exists, even though it turned up in the search results.

In that event, simply click on the cache link (at the bottom line of the search result), and that will retrieve the last saved version of the page that had failed to show. This is a powerful, extremely helpful tool when you come across old pages from Web sites that no longer exist or are no longer maintained.

5. Get your number

Looking up a phone number? Give your fingers a break, and let Google do the walking.

Just type "phonebook" and the name and city (or state initials) of the person whose number you're looking for. The number will pop up instantly. Often, you can leave out the word "phonebook," though city or state will be required.

6. Get the name

If you have a phone number but want the name or the location, just type in the number - no hyphens, parentheses or spaces necessary. For fun, type in 2024561111 and see whose office this number belongs to.

7. Look up synonyms

With all due respect to Webster, you can now get definitions in a flash by typing "define:" and your search word. You'll come up with definitions, synonyms and links for further information.

8. Explore specific sites

Let's say you want to look up a past column by your favorite computer columnist. Hmm, I wonder who that might be. ... Well, let's say it is yours truly. If you type "the PC Guy," some dastardly people using the same name will appear in your results.

You, of course, don't want impostors; you want the real thing! So restrict your search solely to The Record's Web site by using the site keyword as follows: "the pc guy site:northjersey.com." Of course, this works with any domain name and is a great way to limit your results to a manageable number.

9. Get the picture

Did you know you can search for pictures with Google?

Just go to the Google home page, click on images, and pick out your favorite pics. Whether you're looking for the latest NASA images of Jupiter or the latest photos of Brad and Angelina, you can further narrow your searches using the advanced search function to, for example, retrieve certain types or sizes of files.

10. At your fingertips

Simplify all your searches by incorporating the Google search bar into your browser. Go to google.com, click "More," scroll down the page to Google Tools, then click on Toolbar and follow directions from there.
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Oh, except for number 10. The number that answers the question, "Gee, who prepared this nifty little tutorial?"
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Lin, that was really helpful. Thanks! I especially liked the exclude function...I'd never heard of it before.
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If I Google "Google," will it go into a do-loop and explode?
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