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    I have a paperback book of Mein Kampf. I would say a story of God as the villain is as good a literary endeavor as Mein Kampf. Especially if given to children to read. This raises the question in my mind why children aren't allowed to purchase pornographic magazines in the United States where urine might be the primary fetish?

    But this is my opinion and inquiry. I'm but one person and a flawed one at that. The greater question might be the reverse of "What would Jesus do?" The question then: "What would Lucifer do?"

    As a side note: God's goodness can be presented in the "negative path," that being God as blackness, night, and where individuals feel lonely, lost, and in suffering. That's not God as a villain though but God in paths that temper us and hopefully make us stronger in the end.

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    Yes, I've heard all that before.
    But how can a human being win a case against God?
    3 How can anyone argue with him?
    He can ask a thousand questions
    that no one could ever answer.[a]
    4 God is so wise and powerful;
    no one can stand up against him.
    5 Without warning he moves mountains
    and in anger he destroys them.
    6 God sends earthquakes and shakes the ground;
    he rocks the pillars that support the earth.
    7 He can keep the sun from rising,
    and the stars from shining at night.
    8 No one helped God spread out the heavens
    or trample the sea monster's back.[b]
    9 God hung the stars in the sky—the Dipper,
    Orion, the Pleiades, and the stars of the south.
    10 We cannot understand the great things he does,
    and to his miracles there is no end.

    11 God passes by, but I cannot see him.
    12 He takes what he wants, and no one can stop him;
    no one dares ask him,
    What are you doing?
    13 God's anger is constant. He crushed his enemies
    who helped Rahab,[c] the sea monster, oppose him.
    14 So how can I find words to answer God?
    15 Though I am innocent, all I can do
    is beg for mercy from God my judge.
    16 Yet even then, if he lets me speak,
    I can't believe he would listen to me.
    17 He sends storms to batter and bruise me
    without any reason at all.
    18 He won't let me catch my breath;
    he has filled my life with bitterness.
    19 Should I try force? Try force on God?
    Should I take him to court? Could anyone make him go?[d]
    20 I am innocent and faithful, but my words sound guilty,
    and everything I say seems to condemn me.
    21-22I am innocent, but I no longer care.
    I am sick of living. Nothing matters;
    innocent or guilty, God will destroy us.
    23 When an innocent person suddenly dies,
    God laughs.
    24 God gave the world to the wicked.
    He made all the judges blind.
    And if God didn't do it, who did?
    To all those offended by my sense of humor I offer these delightful alternatives, surely appealing to even the most gossamer and pixie-like of fancies:
    The Napoleon Of Notting Hill by G.K. Chesterton
    Captain Stormfield's Visit To Heaven by Mark Twain
    Enjoy!

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    The bible is so open to interpretation you could portray god as a child murderer and be able to back it up. Just ask Richard Dawkins.

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    There are a lot of people who see the Biblical God as actually being two separate entities - the Old Testament God (who is jealous and vengeful) and the New Testament God (represented by Jesus and the 'stern but loving father'). I kinda like that myself, since even as a child I didn't like the Old Testament God very much. (And there's a lot you could do with that idea, too.)

    As to angels, there have been many many stories/movies about them fighting amongst themselves and opposing God (Lucifer pops to mind). With fiction, as I think others have pointed out, you can pretty much do what you want - as long as you stay consistent. I mean, it's not like the theologians have sat down and interviewed angels to see what their job description or hierarchy actually is...

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