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    A look at language(adult language)

    This poem is by regie gibson:
    Alchemy

    PRONOUN/NOUN/PREPOSITION/NOUN
    PRONOUN/NOUN/PREPOSITION/NOUN
    PRONOUN/ADJECTIVE/VERB/NOUN/PREPOSITION/NOUN
    NOUN/VERB/ADVERB/CONJUNCTION/ARTICLE/NOUN
    PREPOSITION/PRONOUN/NOUN


    this/eroticism/of/language
    this/copulation/of/words
    this/slow/burning/fuck/of/syllables
    poetry/is/more/than/the/sum
    of/its/parts

    I was utterly affected by gibson's juxtaposition of these two stanzas. In such a simple and unusual way, he's able to display how effective poetry and the language of poetry is beyond its structure. I began to be more careful of my own word usage after reading this, so I just wanted to share it.
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    Juxtaposition! The first stanza is the structure of the second! Yet at the same time it is a juxtaposition... This is pretty neat.
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    COOL!

    This should be put in the 'Poetry for Dummies' or something.... really really cool.
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    That is clever - in fact really clever.

    I've printed it off and stuck it on the pinboard, but don't you just know someone somewhere will view it as a ready-made formula for building a poem? I don't think it's that at all. I think it's a clever poem that's protesting against ideas of formula and structure. It's a protest song!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross
    That is clever - in fact really clever.

    I've printed it off and stuck it on the pinboard, but don't you just know someone somewhere will view it as a ready-made formula for building a poem? I don't think it's that at all. I think it's a clever poem that's protesting against ideas of formula and structure. It's a protest song!!!
    Looks to me like a poem that's also protesting the conventional, Cartesian way the typical literati looks at language. Delightful.

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    instructive and delightful, that's a rare combination suzi, thanks.

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    Absolutely brilliant. I'll have to take another look at Gibson.

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    Oh, I can't believe I didn't say anything about it before...

    "This" isn't a pronoun, it's a demonstrative adjective.

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    Holy cow Jolly! Youre right! The way "this" is used in this poem makes it a demonstrative adjective. If "this" weren't modifying a noun, it would be a demonstrative pronoun (as in the sentence: I like this.), but since "this" does modify nouns (eroticism/copulation/fuck), it changes its grammatical role.

    Dammit! The poem is slightly ruined for me now. Mean English majors.






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    'this' is a pronoun at the segmental level the poet has chosen. we can choose to describe 'the' as 'definite article' if we wish, or 'burning' as a gerund, but this is an additional level - much akin to using basic level phonetics to transcribe speech rather than using the full IPA with diacritics.

    Sorry, for being a smartarse, but it doesn't ruin the poem at all - further breakdown and analysis of the most detailed description of each of the words used, would ruin it however.
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    Forget the grammar, just wallow in the delicious , voluptuous metaphors in the second stanza.

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    WOW! Quit all the grammar and IPA nonsense, let's just soak in Gibson's beauty.

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