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| Poetry Poems, Haiku & Tanka etc. |
10-22-2007, 05:06 PM
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"smart little kids."
Well, if you want that label. Look at your actions and look up "ad hominem."
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10-22-2007, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by German Voodoo
"I would say that I've known him long enough to know that he can be totally obnoxious some of the time."
He's right.
"I also know that he knows his craft better than many who have been wrtiting for twice as long as his years. "
He's just being nice.
"I don't think that he wants to steal your style or your voice"
Of course not.
"speakerphone2's comments"
were lovely.
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I don't want your style. I don't want your voice.
I don't believe you have one yet. I don't mean that in offense. If I did, I'd make it quite clear.
Take it as a good sign, that you're not stuck with that poetic voice, so young. Many don't like with what they wind up.
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"I break whatever rules I want to and I simply don't care so long as my style jumps off the page"
Know the rules before you break them.
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How old am I, Voodoo?
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10-22-2007, 05:08 PM
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#48
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Originally Posted by Eiji Tunsinagi
Hm. Thanks Speakerphone, I guess. I feel allot of your commentary bashing nonsense, but some of it actually makes sense. I might change some of this.
And plyers can also be pliers. Either one is acceptable.
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Originally Posted by speakerphone2
It's 'a lot', if we're going to get picky, sir.
And where is my commentary bashing? All of my comments are valid. It's not like I said "You can't talk about cupboards because you're Norwegian and Norwegians are stupid ignorant idiots."
Bashing? As if.
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Originally Posted by speakerphone2
... In fact, I think it's slander that you just said I've bashed you.
Incredible.
Apologies should be forthcoming; I assure you that I'm otherwise prepared to defend each and every critique.
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I just don't know how to make it any clearer. Two others on this thread agree with this. Are you just incredibly rude? |
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10-22-2007, 05:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by German Voodoo
"I break whatever rules I want to and I simply don't care so long as my style jumps off the page"
Know the rules before you break them.
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Of course, if I didn't know them, I'd abide by them in ignorance  |
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10-22-2007, 05:10 PM
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There won't be any more "ad hominem" in this thread.
Get to the poem.
For Lush's sake, this isn't the debate forum.
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- HWV 60
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10-22-2007, 05:12 PM
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"How old am I, Voodoo?"
18?
Not you, Mermaid, just general advice.
There won't be any more "ad hominem" in this thread.
--Hope not, Shawn.
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10-22-2007, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn
There won't be any more "ad hominem" in this thread.
Get to the poem.
For Lush's sake, this isn't the debate forum.
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If Elji were to stop and think about the reviews that have been posted then I think that the debate would end to his benefit. |
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10-22-2007, 05:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speakerphone2
I just don't know how to make it any clearer. Two others on this thread agree with this. Are you just incredibly rude?
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OK. Yes yes. Sorry for using the term bashing. It didn't fit. I'll try to think of the word I meant...
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"how will you go about finding that thing the nature of which is totally unknown to you?"
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10-22-2007, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by German Voodoo
"How old am I, Voodoo?"
18?
Not you, Mermaid, just general advice.
There won't be any more "ad hominem" in this thread.
--Hope not, Shawn.
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I know. If you were referring to me, you wouldn't be the clever git that you are.
Seriously, Eiji, you should listen to voodoo's points, the kid's got a big talent and a good understanding of various techniques and I'd have no reason to say that if it wasn't true. He's three years younger than both myself and you but that doesn't take away from the value of his input.
Like I said, take some of it and mould it to fit your style, there's no problem there. |
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10-22-2007, 05:16 PM
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Yes GV, and I think that annoys you.
And Baron, I have been listening to this haphazard flurry of commentary and will be applying it to my next pieces, I suppose in an attempt to please the masses. I didn't know the style expressed in this piece would be considered amateurish, but if it is, then I will be sure to avoid it. Notes are being taken.
If anyone has anything else to say, make it about the poem.
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"nothing is perfect, nothing lasts, and nothing is finished."
"how will you go about finding that thing the nature of which is totally unknown to you?"
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10-22-2007, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Baron
If Elji were to stop and think about the reviews that have been posted then I think that the debate would end to his benefit.
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If Eiji takes the advice, he'll take it; if not, that is not up to members to bring in arguments to support their critique.
I won't let the poetry forum degrade to flaming, however, because there are people that have to clean that up.
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10-22-2007, 05:18 PM
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"Yes GV, and I think that annoys you."
He said end the attack.
No, it doesn't. It pleases me. If you were fifty and you wrote like this, I wouldn't give a damn.
it also pleases me you'll keep these things in mind in the future.
Shawn's right, though. If you won't listen, it's your business.
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10-22-2007, 05:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by German Voodoo
"Yes GV, and I think that annoys you."
He said end the attack.
No, it doesn't. It pleases me. If you were fifty and you wrote like this, I wouldn't give a damn.
it also pleases me you'll keep these things in mind in the future.
Shawn's right, though. If you won't listen, it's your business.
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Thank you. I respect your skills...and your straightforwardness, I suppose.
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"nothing is perfect, nothing lasts, and nothing is finished."
"how will you go about finding that thing the nature of which is totally unknown to you?"
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10-22-2007, 05:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by German Voodoo
Shawn's right, though. If you won't listen, it's your business.
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But completely defeats the purpose of posting. Am I incorrect in saying that this site is intended to provide feedback for growing writers? As such, I'd think that the only reason you'd post here is to get feedback. Seems logical.
At any rate, I don't think you'll be getting any more responses, Eiji, so perhaps this is a good time to sit back, log off, edit and revise, tinker if you will, and come back to post a revised copy at a later time. How does that sound?
Peaceful? Zen? Ad Hominem-less? |
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